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Allrighty,

First off i'll introduce myself, Im Killchain, I have been playing drums for 23 years, and a professional for 17 of them.

Over time i have been collecting drum samples (i have literally thousands), free to use samples of the net, of cover cd's for modern drummer, rhythm & Computer music mags, some live recorded samples of a studio friend & some i have recorded myself in a studio situation.

Got pointed in the MU.LAB direction when i was looking for info about an old program i was using.

Very impressed with this program.

being a drummer i wanted to have lots of different styles of kit, easy to select, depending on my mood.

This is my first Drum kit for MU.LAB, No reason for my first kit to be a 1989 drum machine other than it is first in my folder (alphabetically).

I will be making all of my drumsets for MU.LAB, looks like being 40+ kits, Drum machine & Live, alot i know, but up until now i havent been able to put them in a usable format or prog. not as easy and user friendly as this anyway.

I will be doing this for myself anyway, so throwing them up for download is not a problem, if anybody wants it, its there....

Never had any probs with mediafire for game mods, so i am hoping there will be no prob with this.

OK then, first of is the Akai XR-10, Proper blast from the past.

Download Here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ha56ta15lu997mz

newer patch

Install directions are on the Read Me.

I may be an experienced drummer but i am relatively new to pc based music, so any feedback, good or bad will be appreciated.

Maybe i doing something strange, but if i dont know about it i cant rectify it.

Thanks to mutools for his help on these matters.

Cheers.

M.
Last edited by Killchain on Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Hey Killchain,

Sorry for my delayed replies here, i've been offline for two days, a little trip to the sea here for some rest and relaxation.

Thanks for sharing your first kit!

I saved it on the desktop, and although i had a little problem loading the samples by simply locating the first sample everything loads fine.

The little problem is that you have put everything in the User Library folder and then zipped that. But doing it this way results in the fact that all sample file references are to the User Library and so this means that the receiving user has to put things in his User Library folder too, which is not the most comfortable way to do it.

Better to just make a fresh folder somewhere on your harddisk, but not in the User Library folder, and name it like the kit name.
Then make a subfolder "Samples" and put all kit samples in there.
Then build the drum patch and save the drum patch into the main drum kit folder. Now the sample file references are just between the patch file and that "Samples" sub-folder, which is more objective towards the receiving user. Zip the main drum kit folder and share it with others.

So the file/folder structure is like this (example)

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+ Mu808DrumKit
  + Samples
    BD.wav
    Snare.wav
    ...
  Mu808DrumKit.MuSynth 
This results in a My808DrumKit.zip which you can share with others.
Others can extract that zip file into a new folder and simply drag-drop the Mu808DrumKit.MuSynth file onto a MuSynth editor.
Users can also choose to move the Mu808DrumKit folder into theur User Library/MuSynth folder which wil make it available in the patch list.

I've realized this example into a real new MuSynth patch: http://www.mutools.com/library/musynth/Mu808DrumKit.zip

As you will see i did not use a MultiSampla but a MuSynth for that because by default we don't need the filter, LFO etc for a drum kit and so this way is lighter on the CPU. If you go into the MuSynth's deep editor you'll see that it uses a MultiSampler, so basically it's the same way of building the drumset as with MultiSampla, but with less bells and whistles. I've also added XPose and Release meta parameters.

Feel free to use this Mu808DrumKit patch as a basis for building your own drum kits.

Hope this helps but if you have further questions let me know!

I'm looking forward to hear more of your drum sets!
Last edited by MuTools on Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:19 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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Waouw Thx killchain!
In fact i don't use drummachines sounds but when you 'll release an accoustic kit many users here 'll be happy!Also i am pretty sure many Roland 808 fan 'll be too:)
I really hope for the L letter (like Ludwig per eg;)

Maybe Jo 'll give you a coupon for M4 ;)

i want to make an accoustic drumkit for Mdrummer and Mulab since one years now but my drummer friend haven't the time and i need to have my own sample for to share freely so thx for share them with us and anyway if you have problems Mulabs users are very helpfull i think to Sorohanro who have maid really good patch too.

Good Luck in you're task and enjoy to work with Mulab!

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Off topic NB: I edited my previous post a bit, removed a couple of smileys which were in there, because it's not a good moment to smile. What's hapening in Japan is absolutely dramatic! My humble best wishes and hopeful encouragements to the sincere and humble Japanese people; That is not to any f**king greedy (business) person anywhere on the world who is implicitly responsible for many of the catastrophes of the last years! Put them in the reactor please!

Edit: To the kind MU.LAB users here: I'm sorry for my hard off topic words here, but i couldn't resist. Sometimes i'm shocked by the disgusting irrational narcissistic greed which causes many catastrophes because it doesn't care about humble good-vibed people, animals, plants etc... Sorry, i'll shut up about this subjective topic (it's not a simple philosophical topic) and concentrate on music and technology.
Last edited by MuTools on Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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:-o

yes its heartbreaking to see whats happening over there. all these terrible disasters one ofter another. i wish i could help.

paypal lets you give donations very easily to good organizations. just go to the paypal login page.

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Simon Posford wrote:I really hope for the L letter (like Ludwig per eg;)
I'm actually assembling an acoustic "Ludwig" drum set by selecting the pearls out of thousands of downloaded samples. My intention is to meet the mood of good old Ringo, so maybe not every sample is a ludwig sample. I'm starting with "GM drumset", exchanging all drums and cymbals with mostly layered samples, maybe extending some unused keys, leaving most of the percussion sounds in the upper regions unchanged.
In a couple of weeks it hopefully will be ready. If you are interested an the licences of the samples will allow ...

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mutools wrote: Sorry for my delayed replies here, i've been offline for two days, a little trip to the sea here for some rest and relaxation.
Allways Good to have some R & R, no need to apoligize.

mutools wrote: Thanks for sharing your first kit!
Not a problem. Im enjoying the process of learning.
mutools wrote: Now the sample file references are just between the patch file and that "Samples" sub-folder, which is more objective towards the receiving user. Zip the main drum kit folder and share it with others.
Cool, my aim is to make them user friendly, doh' i knew i would make a noobish type mistake.
mutools wrote: I've realized this example into a real new MuSynth patch: http://www.mutools.com/library/musynth/Mu808DrumKit.zip
Vey nice indeed.
mutools wrote: As you will see i did not use a MultiSampla but a MuSynth for that because by default we don't need the filter, LFO etc for a drum kit and so this way is lighter on the CPU. If you go into the MuSynth's deep editor you'll see that it uses a MultiSampler, so basically it's the same way of building the drumset as with MultiSampla, but with less bells and whistles. I've also added XPose and Release meta parameters.
I shall be using this method to amend my first attempt. being lighter on the cpu is allways good, thanks for the instructions.
mutools wrote: I'm looking forward to hear more of your drum sets!
Thank you, i will improve.

Cheers
M.

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Simon Posford wrote: I really hope for the L letter (like Ludwig per eg;)
Cool, I have a whole load of Ludwig stuff. I am working on a (GOD) John Bonham Kit, it is a Vistalite Kit, That is a very certain Sound, and unmistakable. I want to make every sound he had, including the Tabla, Kettle Drum, toms hit with hands, i have seen sample sets for Bonham that forget all the sounds he made "live".

If you reply with what style of kit you like i can sort samples accordingly,

eg, if its a rock kit, it will be tuned differently, more punch, bigger sound on toms.
eg, if its a jazz kit, smoother toms, looser but more responsive snare for intricate work, felt beater on bass drum.
eg, if its a Funk kit, more "pop" on toms, fusion size toms, higher pitch snare,....etc.

These are the main differences, lots of other subtle changes to make the shells sound like one kit.

then there is cymbals too.

I would'nt put a set of Zildjian K Dark cymbals on a rock kit, they dont cut through, or sound powerfull enough, but sound killer with the jazz style kit because of the more mellower tones, they would sound lost and not "sit" with the kit, all important to make a rounded kit.

I have most makes and styles so let me know.
Zildjian
Sabian
Paiste
Simon Posford wrote: Mulabs users are very helpfull
Good Luck in you're task and enjoy to work with Mulab!
Most impressed with the help on this forum.

Thanks for the feedback.

I will improve.

Cheers
M.

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Reincke wrote:If you are interested
I am, Look forward to Hearing, No two drummers come up with the same thing.
Allways interested in hearing a different style kit.
Reincke wrote: and the licences of the samples will allow ...
I think its a bit of a minefield the whole "Licences thing", interesting part of the forum about copyright. on the kvr bit.

Freesound.org is killer, just email the guy who made them.
They are just as happy you are using them for your own free project.
Most musicians are cool about this, unless they are greedy.
If they are, Then they are'nt likely to go to a site called "freesound".
You would be unlucky to meet one.
Big companys, Different story.

Or play it yourself, not always possible.

Anyway, Want to hear your kit.

Cool.

M.

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mutools wrote: Then build the drum patch and save the drum patch into the main drum kit folder.
Do i still build with multisampla?

I made a new kit using a folder in a seperate place, drag-droped samples on to the multisample key map, i could'nt save the new .MUSynth file to another place other than default folder. (user/library/musynth).

mutools wrote: Others can extract that zip file into a new folder and simply drag-drop the Mu808DrumKit.MuSynth file onto a MuSynth editor.
how do i open the MuSynth editor?
is it like the multisample editor?
can i drag n drop on to keys?
mutools wrote: Users can also choose to move the Mu808DrumKit folder into theur User Library/MuSynth folder which wil make it available in the patch list.
i did this with your kit, worked fine.

mutools wrote: As you will see i did not use a MultiSampla but a MuSynth for that because by default we don't need the filter, LFO etc for a drum kit and so this way is lighter on the CPU. If you go into the MuSynth's deep editor you'll see that it uses a MultiSampler, so basically it's the same way of building the drumset as with MultiSampla, but with less bells and whistles. I've also added XPose and Release meta parameters.

Feel free to use this Mu808DrumKit patch as a basis for building your own drum kits.
I loaded your kit, and was trying to edit with new samples and save as....
how do i open the MuSynth editor?
and save as.xxxxx. in the drum folder?

Cheers for the direction.
good to keep cpu down.

thanks
M.

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Hi Killchain,

I've been thinking a bit more about this.

Here is the most easy way to make your own drumkits and share them:

* MU.LAB -> New Session
* Insert MultiSampla in Rack + open Multisample editor
* Add + organize the samples you want
* When ready, go to main EDIT menu -> Sample Manager -> Options -> Embed All

Now from the main MultiSampla editor, save the patch where you want.
You can also right-click the Save As button, this will give you a file browser so you can save it anywhere on your system.

Now all samples are integrated within the patch file, so that's the most easy way to spread your drum kit patch around.

Cheers,

Jo

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mutools wrote: Now all samples are integrated within the patch file, so that's the most easy way to spread your drum kit patch around.
Cool,

I will be using this info to make next kit.

Full live Ludwig Kit.

&

Japanese Percussion Pack.

Later this week.

Cheers for your Patience & Tutorials.

M.

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Killchain wrote:
mutools wrote:
Cheers for your Patience & Tutorials.

M.
Am not patient i am so EXITED :lol:

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