what is the best ACOUSTIC guitar vst instrument ?
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- KVRAF
- 2118 posts since 24 May, 2008 from London, UK
Don't forget Ilya Efimov's new acoustic guitar. The demos are fantastic.
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- KVRAF
- 5139 posts since 27 Jun, 2004
Sounds great, thanks for the tip. I'll wait for the acoustic guitar library (current is nylon guitar). Too bad that I'll have to buy a Kontakt update and I have a feeling v5 is near with yet more "revolutionary" must-have features, pff.synaesthesia wrote:Don't forget Ilya Efimov's new acoustic guitar. The demos are fantastic.
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- KVRian
- 1210 posts since 5 Dec, 2002 from Earth
I have to agree with several other posters that Orange Tree Samples Evolution Acoustic Guitar - Steel Strings sounds far more realistic than the other steel string acoustic guitar libraries I've heard. Considering it will have the Evolution guitar chord strumming engine, it will be the only acoustic guitar library except Indignus, which is a much lower end product and significantly less detailed library (e.g., last I heard, it doesn't contain round robins), with a chord strumming engine. There are also some acoustic guitar libraries on the market that have loud buzzing in the lower octaves which makes them undesirable, imo.
Consequently, my pick (no pun intended) for an acoustic steel string guitar is Evolution Acoustic Guitar - Steel Strings and I recently heard some demos for an acoustic nylon guitar that I thought sounded excellent from a new developer on the scene, Ilya Efimov. While his acoustic guitar doesn't currently include a strumming engine and some posters have stated it is pretty complex to use, it sounded quite beautiful in the demos and very realistic to my ears.
An additional point. As guitar libraries have become much more sophisticated and realistic sounding, with lots of articulations and velocity layers, round robins and highly sophisticated scripting, I think usability/ease of use/workflow is more critical than ever. I think once RealGuitar came out with a strumming engine and then, more recently, since Evolution Electric Guitar came out with their strumming engine, a strumming engine is a must have feature for guitar libraries for me.
(FTR, I'm a customer of several guitar sample library developers and have given them marketing advice over the years, including Pettinhouse and Orange Tree Samples.)
Consequently, my pick (no pun intended) for an acoustic steel string guitar is Evolution Acoustic Guitar - Steel Strings and I recently heard some demos for an acoustic nylon guitar that I thought sounded excellent from a new developer on the scene, Ilya Efimov. While his acoustic guitar doesn't currently include a strumming engine and some posters have stated it is pretty complex to use, it sounded quite beautiful in the demos and very realistic to my ears.
An additional point. As guitar libraries have become much more sophisticated and realistic sounding, with lots of articulations and velocity layers, round robins and highly sophisticated scripting, I think usability/ease of use/workflow is more critical than ever. I think once RealGuitar came out with a strumming engine and then, more recently, since Evolution Electric Guitar came out with their strumming engine, a strumming engine is a must have feature for guitar libraries for me.
(FTR, I'm a customer of several guitar sample library developers and have given them marketing advice over the years, including Pettinhouse and Orange Tree Samples.)
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- KVRist
- 259 posts since 8 May, 2010 from US-Washington
My pick would have to be Pettinhouse, as Evolution does not qualify, as it hasn't been released yet. Even the Pettinhouse free version is awesome and easily one of the best guitars to get a realistic strumming sound out of without much effort.
After this thread, I bought the indiginus version and got a copy of the HE Audio steel.
Impressions:
Indiginus: OK, usable, strumming engine thing is kinda cool, but not many velocity layers and not really on the level of current production, as already noted by edrummist. Will probably sound good buried in a mix.
HE Audio steel: Does anyone here actually use the sound? The sound itself is not bad, but the response feels sluggish, implementation is dodgy (half the keyswitches are unused), chording is rudimentary, and it's a real ram hog. Perhaps someone can enlighten me as to what I'm doing wrong, or maybe everyone here is just going by demo's. Oh, and it's expensive for what it is.
After this thread, I bought the indiginus version and got a copy of the HE Audio steel.
Impressions:
Indiginus: OK, usable, strumming engine thing is kinda cool, but not many velocity layers and not really on the level of current production, as already noted by edrummist. Will probably sound good buried in a mix.
HE Audio steel: Does anyone here actually use the sound? The sound itself is not bad, but the response feels sluggish, implementation is dodgy (half the keyswitches are unused), chording is rudimentary, and it's a real ram hog. Perhaps someone can enlighten me as to what I'm doing wrong, or maybe everyone here is just going by demo's. Oh, and it's expensive for what it is.
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- KVRAF
- 5817 posts since 8 May, 2008 from ssssskipping ......... I left you there
musicdoc wrote:Evolution does not qualify, as it hasn't been released yet.
Very, very, very bad timing in your post.
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=315253
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- KVRAF
- 7903 posts since 24 May, 2009 from Nationalism isn't my thing...
standalone wrote:musicdoc wrote:Evolution does not qualify, as it hasn't been released yet.
Very, very, very bad timing in your post.
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=315253
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- KVRAF
- 1729 posts since 26 Feb, 2008
+1000synaesthesia wrote:Don't forget Ilya Efimov's new acoustic guitar. The demos are fantastic.
WOW. They are brilliant.
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- KVRAF
- 37403 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
The best one out of all I have is 6 String which is a DSP powered plugin for the Scope platform. But not cheap.
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- KVRist
- 259 posts since 8 May, 2010 from US-Washington
I stand corrected. After watching for this release for like 6 months I was starting to think of the word vaporware..
Let me rephrase my last statement. IMO Pettinhouse is currently the best sounding acoustic steel guitar with a low RAM overhead.
Evolution with 6 gigs worth of samples will take some room in K4. Can anybody here give RAM usage on Kontakt for this new guitar?
Let me rephrase my last statement. IMO Pettinhouse is currently the best sounding acoustic steel guitar with a low RAM overhead.
Evolution with 6 gigs worth of samples will take some room in K4. Can anybody here give RAM usage on Kontakt for this new guitar?
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- KVRAF
- 24411 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
DFD buffer: 60 kB - RAM load: 0.63 GB (default)
DFD buffer: 54 kB - RAM load: 0.58 GB
DFD buffer: 48 kB - RAM load: 0.53 GB
DFD buffer: 42 kB - RAM load: 496 MB
DFD buffer: 36 kB - RAM load: 445 MB (recommended by me)
DFD buffer: 30 kB - RAM load: 394 MB
DFD buffer: 24 kB - RAM load: 342 MB
DFD buffer: 18 kB - RAM load: 290 MB
DFD buffer: 12 kB - RAM load: 238 MB
DFD buffer: 6 kB - RAM load: 185 MB (lowest)
DFD buffers below 30 kB are probably only viable if you have an SSD.
DFD buffer: 54 kB - RAM load: 0.58 GB
DFD buffer: 48 kB - RAM load: 0.53 GB
DFD buffer: 42 kB - RAM load: 496 MB
DFD buffer: 36 kB - RAM load: 445 MB (recommended by me)
DFD buffer: 30 kB - RAM load: 394 MB
DFD buffer: 24 kB - RAM load: 342 MB
DFD buffer: 18 kB - RAM load: 290 MB
DFD buffer: 12 kB - RAM load: 238 MB
DFD buffer: 6 kB - RAM load: 185 MB (lowest)
DFD buffers below 30 kB are probably only viable if you have an SSD.
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- KVRist
- 259 posts since 8 May, 2010 from US-Washington
Spicy guitar... not even close if your looking for an acoustic sound. Ok for like synthetic guitar. Go to Pettinhouse's site, download the free version of the steel string, and maybe Kontakt free(30 min limit at a time) and try it for yourself.
Independence free as mentioned before also has a decent sounding free guitar.
Independence free as mentioned before also has a decent sounding free guitar.
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- KVRian
- 1071 posts since 23 Apr, 2003
I have been using the beta for some time now, and I can assure you that Orange Tree Samples Evolution Acoustic Guitar is on a completely new level of 'sampled' guitars - ultra realistic, and the playability is brilliant. The strumming is also sounding fantastic and 'alive', and you can control a lot of nuances of the guitar. It's not only simply 'sampled' though, as it uses some clever scripting and forms of behavioral 'player modeling' (don't know the proper word for this). Actually, it simply sounds real - like a real guitarist playing a real guitar.
Btw, I am a paying customer, not an official OT beta user. Greg was so kind to let me use the beta for a project in advance. I bought the full product the minute it was released....
Pettinhouse is also a great sounding product. The guitar has a lot of character. It doesn't offer the advanced scripting of the OT product, but it's still very usable and nice. If you can afford it, buy both of them - you can never have too much variation when it comes to guitars...
Btw, I am a paying customer, not an official OT beta user. Greg was so kind to let me use the beta for a project in advance. I bought the full product the minute it was released....
Pettinhouse is also a great sounding product. The guitar has a lot of character. It doesn't offer the advanced scripting of the OT product, but it's still very usable and nice. If you can afford it, buy both of them - you can never have too much variation when it comes to guitars...