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egbert · Post by **egbert** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:39 am

Brian @ IK Multimedia wrote:
egbert wrote:Why would anyone want a paying AT customer to have two versions installed concurrently with potentially two custom shop registrations? So that you can buy the Orange or Soldano and only have it registered on AT3 Free and not the full AT 3.5?

The Horror
It doesn't work that way. You have one IK User Account. All of your IK products are registered to it. The difference between AmpliTube CS FREE and AmpliTube 3.5 is the serial number. AmpliTube 3 starts with 'ATX30'. AmpliTube CS FREE starts with 'ACS30'. The installer is the same for both, and authorizing the AmpliTube CS FREE serial number is redundant if you have AmpliTube 3.

Custom Shop purchases are tied to your IK User Account, not to a particular serial number. So once you buy the Soldano, you can unlock it with either your AmpliTube 3.5 or AmpliTube CS FREE, provided they are both registered to the same IK User Account that the SLO-100 was purchased through. The reality of it is that Custom Shop FREE gives registered AmpliTube 3 users 5 additional authorizations for free, and is for all intents and purposes functionally the same thing.

Hi Brian,

Now I'm confused. I had just read your own caution - here it is again:

Brian @ IK Multimedia wrote:

...You can continue using AmpliTube 3.5 just as you used AmpliTube 3.02. Make sure you are using your full AmpliTube 3 registration, not the CS FREE registration. CS FREE unlocks gear through the Custom Shop online. AmpliTube 3.5 has integrated Custom Shop access, but it is not essential to the software...

When you said "make sure you are using the (full version) registration and not the CS FREE registration" - you seemed to be indicating a potential screwup of the kind I speculated on. What adverse consequence did you have in mind when making this warning?

vata44 · Post by **vata44** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:44 am

brilliant idea IK! You got me on board!

GeorgeZ · Post by **GeorgeZ** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:55 am

Brian @ IK Multimedia wrote:There are no new mics. The new models are all available à la carte through the Custom Shop. We bring all existing users up to speed with AmpliTube 3.5 for free, but we do still ask that you buy the new models. You can buy just a new amp or stomp if you like. It is no longer a major financial commitment to get into AmpliTube.

The new models are from our co-branding partners at Fender, Orange, Soldano and T•Rex. Plus the Nu-Tron III, which is a model of a vintage Mu-Tron III.

Very, very important point you missed about the 3.5 update from AT2:
Draggable FX. That was the ONLY thing I found "wrong" with AM, AF and AXgear.
I don't need other models of anything, I'm set with AM and AF, however, being able to drag FX to a different point in the chain... heaven!

... now, if I can just get my AF and AM to work in A3.5Free

Brian @ IK Multimedia · Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:55 am

egbert wrote:When you said "make sure you are using the (full version) registration and not the CS FREE registration" - you seemed to be indicating a potential screwup of the kind I speculated on. What adverse consequence did you have in mind when making this warning?

That you could not unlock AmpliTube 3, AmpliTube Fender or Ampeg SVX gear offline. Custom Shop FREE only unlocks gear through the Restore My Gear tab, which requires an internet connection. But both will unlock your registered gear.

CORRECTION: AmpliTube Custom Shop FREE will also detect your installed Powered By AmpliTube software and unlock this gear without need for restoring online in the Custom Shop!

vata44 · Post by **vata44** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:59 am

Which do I download in my "Downloads"? All I see is stealth pedal stuff...

Nothing for Amplitube 3 free

Brian @ IK Multimedia · Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:09 am

vaisnava, do you not see AmpliTube 3 FREE 3.5.1 14-04-2011 Initial Release, or are you clicking the [Available] button at the end of that?

filkertom · Post by **filkertom** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:20 pm

At this point, I'm not worried. I've got all my AT2 stuff in X-Gear, just like I had before, and it works fine, and so does AT3.5 (and, for that matter, so does AT2). Yeah, it would be a little more convenient to have all those choices in AT3.5, but it's hardly a deal-breaker, and it all sounds superb. So I'm going to make some music.

surferman · Post by **surferman** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:04 pm

Brian @ IK Multimedia wrote:There are no new mics. The new models are all available à la carte through the Custom Shop. We bring all existing users up to speed with AmpliTube 3.5 for free, but we do still ask that you buy the new models. You can buy just a new amp or stomp if you like. It is no longer a major financial commitment to get into AmpliTube.

The new models are from our co-branding partners at Fender, Orange, Soldano and T•Rex. Plus the Nu-Tron III, which is a model of a vintage Mu-Tron III.

I guess I'm in the minority here. I've been a big proponent of Amplitube products. I've often talked on the Hamerfan club site about amplitube and even as recent as April 12th a thread was started by another user asking me about amplitube and I was posting glowingly about the sims and the potential of the new update. I've seen responses to many posts here but none to mine.
This upgrade seems to benefit the new users more than the established user in my opinion.

Jam points did the same thing. I didn't complain about it when it came out because who should complain about something free, but since I had been a customer for so long, some of my products were already past the two year window. So for , AmpliTube Metal - Crossgrade from any IK product 30-07-2008 $ 12, Ampeg SVX - Crossgrade from any IK product 03-04-2008 $ 14, StealthPlug - USB Audio Interface Cable for Guitar &... 15-12-2006 $ 11, AmpliTube 2 06-09-2006 $ 32, I as a long standing user gets nothing. But a new customer gets full benefit.
and of course since I had almost everything you make and had no purchases to consider at your store, my last few jam points expired.

So, no problem, this is Ik's new business model.

I'm just not sure this list below will be getting any longer.

Member since 09-06-2006
T-RackS 3 Vintage Compressor Model 670 01-09-2010
AmpliTube 3 FREE 14-04-2011
SampleTank FREE 23-10-2010
Miroslav Philharmonik 28-07-2010
SampleMoog 28-07-2010
SampleTank 2 XL 28-07-2010
SampleTron 28-07-2010
Sonik Synth 2 28-07-2010
SampleTank 2 XT FREE 31-05-2010
AmpliTube 3 26-02-2010
Classik Studio Reverb - Hall 31-08-2009
T-RackS 3 Classic Equalizer 31-08-2009
T-RackS 3 Metering 31-08-2009
Classik Studio Reverb 27-08-2009
Classik Studio Reverb - Hall 11-08-2009
T-RackS 3 Opto Compressor 04-08-2009
T-RackS 3 Classic Multiband Limiter 04-08-2009
T-RackS 3 Brickwall Limiter 04-08-2009
T-RackS 3 Classic Clipper 04-08-2009
T-RackS 3 Classic Compressor 04-08-2009
T-RackS 3 Vintage Program EQ 1A 18-07-2009
T-RackS 3 Vintage Compressor Model 670 16-07-2009
T-RackS 3 Linear Phase EQ 15-07-2009
AmpliTube Fender 18-05-2009
T-RackS 3 Shell 19-12-2008
AmpliTube Jimi Hendrix 30-07-2008
AmpliTube Metal 30-07-2008
Ampeg SVX 03-04-2008
T-RackS Plug-In 03-04-2008
AmpliTube X-GEAR 17-03-2008
T-RackS EQ Plug-in 23-02-2007
AmpliTube 2 Live / StealthPlug 15-12-2006

blueman · Post by **blueman** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:26 pm

surferman wrote:... a new customer gets full benefit. and of course since I had almost everything you make and had no purchases to consider at your store, my last few jam points expired.

So, no problem, this is Ik's new business model.

I'm just not sure this list below will be getting any longer.

I'm in the same boat. I have nearly every piece of software IKM makes. Customers like us have helped to create IKM's success and our reward is to help new folks get a better deal up front while we see no upgrade or crossgrade options. They will use all manner of excuses why this is so but we are the losers here. Lesson learned...

jsl · Post by **jsl** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:53 pm

My first thought, Was that the prices was to high in the custum shop
I mean 15 credits for a distortion pedal - T Rex Mudhoney.
But I tryed It out, and the T Rex replica to - And I just had to buy them
They are sooooooooo gooooood - and I have to say: they are plenty worth the price
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blueman · Post by **blueman** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:11 pm

I can live with first-release bugs and changing the delivery mechanism to an online "custom shop" for new models. It's a little painful to transition into but I can tolerate it. As I said, the models look and sound GREAT so, no issue there...

Where IKM loses me is with the lack of any upgrade or crossgrade option (to Custom Shop models) for existing customers. That is standard for the software industry and not offering it is a snub to those who have made large investments in IKM over the long-term. Also, they show up here to announce products and when we offer constructive criticism or report bugs, they insist we go fill out their tedious online support form. That's two strikes for me IKM!

jsp1979 · Post by **jsp1979** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:18 pm

blueman wrote: Where IKM loses me is with the lack of any upgrade or crossgrade option for existing customers. That is standard for the software industry and not offering it is a snub to those who have made large investments in IKM over the long-term.

From the site: Amplitube 3 Prices

Full
$349.99 / €269.99

Crossgrade from any other IK product
$269.99 / €199.99

Upgrade from:
AmpliTube 2
AmpliTube Jimi Hendrix™
AmpliTube Metal
AmpliTube Fender™
Ampeg® SVX
$199.99 / €149.99

festeringheap · Post by **festeringheap** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:19 pm

Brian @ IK Multimedia wrote:
CORRECTION: AmpliTube Custom Shop FREE will also detect your installed Powered By AmpliTube software and unlock this gear without need for restoring online in the Custom Shop!

That is the best thing I have heard about Custom Shop in 4 days.

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blueman · Post by **blueman** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:25 pm

jsp1979 wrote:
blueman wrote: Where IKM loses me is with the lack of any upgrade or crossgrade option for existing customers. That is standard for the software industry and not offering it is a snub to those who have made large investments in IKM over the long-term.
From the site: Amplitube 3 Prices

Full
$349.99 / €269.99

Crossgrade from any other IK product
$269.99 / €199.99

Upgrade from:
AmpliTube 2
AmpliTube Jimi Hendrix™
AmpliTube Metal
AmpliTube Fender™
Ampeg® SVX
$199.99 / €149.99

What does ANY of that have to do with upgrades to Custom Shop add-ons? Did I miss something? Are there discounts to ANY of the new models for existing AmpliTube owners?

blueman · Post by **blueman** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:26 pm

Brian @ IK Multimedia wrote:
CORRECTION: AmpliTube Custom Shop FREE will also detect your installed Powered By AmpliTube software and unlock this gear without need for restoring online in the Custom Shop!

Only SVX and AmpliTube 3 shows up on my list; all others (that I own) are absent. Do I need to run both AmpliTube 3.5 FREE AND AmpliTube 3.5 (side-by-side) to see and use what I already own?

Introducing AmpliTube 3.5 Custom Shop