A u-he Music Contest?

[pocvecem]

Think there's some misunderstanding. I agree that all plugins used should be from u-he. No 3rd party synth or fx!
But as stated in the OSC rules: You are allowed to use eq, reverb, delay and so on from your host/sequencer or freeware as far as they don't change the sound too much. Not allowed are modulation fx. Limiter on stereo master is also allowed.
This is how I understand the OSC rules.

So let's say that even sequencer onboard effects are not allowed. Then a Zebra owner can use Zebrify and put all of the tasty FX on every track. And remember: there's even a compressor in Zebrify. And eqs and modulation fx ...
I don't want to argue here, just want to point out that owners of Zebra have a big advantage when they are allowed to use Zebrify.
Haven't even mentioned Uhbik owners.

And please, don't ban single mat whisky from the competition!

[3ee]

How about if all sound sources done by u-he synth(s) and for dsp use what we have and like as far as we don't overprocess the sounds.
That sounds like fun and still a reasonable "u-he" contest.
How's that?

[hakey]

Hmmm... No, I'm still in favour of keeping things as purely u-he as possible. It is a 'music made with u-he contest', not a 'music made with u-he plus some freeware effects, plus host eq, compression etc contest'.

Yes, not allowing 3rd party freeware would favour owners of u-he payware, but that's unavoidable and not necessarily a bad thing, IMO.

Afterall, it is neither possible nor desirable to make an entirely level playing field - people with a good imagination and musical skill will also have an (/the?) advantage.

What does everyone else think?

[hakey]

How about if all sound sources done by u-he synth(s) and for dsp use what we have and like as far as we don't overprocess the sounds.

Define 'overprocess' in a way that is unambiguous.

[3ee]

A bit of eq here and a bit of compression there... a bit of reverb here and a bit of delay there ... something to get the mix... that would be simple as fun

Overprocessing would imply to get a way different sound out of dsp rather than focusing to get a clean and original sound out of the u-he sound sources. (So yeah... no overpreocessing!)

A contest where only u-he plugins are used is unafordable at least for me atm.

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Or how about (for this 1st edition of this kind of contest) a TyrellN6 only contest with the theme "Synthesizer Music".

Where we can also use fairly basic stuff to get a mix going. (and mandatory, the TAL Chorus-60)

[hakey]

A bit of eq here and a bit of compression there... a bit of reverb here and a bit of delay there [...] Overprocessing would imply to get a way different sound out of dsp rather than focusing to get a clean and original sound out of the u-he sound sources.

So much of that is subjective =/= unambiguous.

Or how about (for this 1st edition of this kind of contest) a TyrellN6 only contest with the theme "Synthesizer Music".

I think that Tyrell may well be the next OSC - no sense in running two identical contests.

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[hakey]

A contest where only u-he plugins are used is unafordable at least for me atm.

Didn't you win Zebra the other month?

[Esgalachoir]

I like the sound of this. I'm interested.

[Esgalachoir]

Hmmm... No, I'm still in favour of keeping things as purely u-he as possible. It is a 'music made with u-he contest', not a 'music made with u-he plus some freeware effects, plus host eq, compression etc contest'.

Yes, not allowing 3rd party freeware would favour owners of u-he payware, but that's unavoidable and not necessarily a bad thing, IMO.

Afterall, it is neither possible nor desirable to make an entirely level playing field - people with a good imagination and musical skill will also have an (/the?) advantage.

What does everyone else think?

I agree completely. But I'm biased(I own loads of U-he payware ) The demo of the Uhbik suite is still usable though is it not?(If I remember correctly, all it does is make intermittent fuzzly sounds.)
But then there is Bazille(which is a free beta as of now?)...which means that if you've got any kind of skill, you could make somewhat of a fair stand against the local Zebra keepers.

[hakey]

I like the sound of this. I'm interested.

[3ee]

A contest where only u-he plugins are used is unafordable at least for me atm.

Didn't you win Zebra the other month?

Yes, but don't know why I was thinking of Uhbik and the u-he effects mainly when I claimed that.

So, than yes.... I wouldn't mind creating a track with few Zebras and Tyrells (+a master limiter )

[hakey]

(+a master limiter )

Yes, I think that some compression/limiting on the master would be okay.

[hakey]

Does anyone know if Zebrify and ZRev come with the Zebra demo and if so how crippled they are? Just wondering whether they might be usable for those without u-he payware.

[hakey]

I should really ask - Urs, are you okay with all of this?

Any thoughts on the purely u-he plugs vs. u-he plus 3rd party freeware debate?

[V'ger]

Guys, Tyrell will be next month's (May) One-Synth-Challenge just so you know.

Have long been toying with the idea of a Zebra or U-he OSC event too, but maybe Tyrell for May and Zebra June is a bit too close?