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neueliteratur · Post by **neueliteratur** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:59 pm

Hi,

http://www.boosey.com/imagesw/print/Mus ... 81_mus.jpg

This is Prokofieff's Visions Fugitives, the first piece.

Take a look at the 3rd measure of the 3rd line(?).

On the 3rd note, there is a dot above it.

A friend of mine who has a different edition has the same dot, but also no written explanation in the book.

What do you think that could be?!

Musicologo · Post by **Musicologo** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:27 pm

It's clearly a typo. That dot shouldn't be there. It's an augmentation dot out-of-place. Notice, also, that the last chord of them all in the last measure has an extra line on top of the top note that shouldn't be there.

Those are two engraver's mistakes.

keyman_sam · Post by **keyman_sam** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:51 pm

what he said.

neueliteratur · Post by **neueliteratur** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:02 pm

Cool. Thanks.

frederik D · Post by **frederik D** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:22 pm

I'm with the typo-people on this one. I can't see any reason for a dot, and moreover, there are editions without it, e.g. http://imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/b ... _Op_22.pdf

tuz · Post by **tuz** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:30 am

it's the profokiev dot. profokiev wrote it that way in 1915(probably dropped some ink or something) and the guys who publish it honor him that way sometimes. it's odd. it has caused a lot of discussions but was actually realized on the original paperwork itself.

Nystul · Post by **Nystul** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:04 am

Hidden satanic messages in Morse code.

Unkie Al · Post by **Unkie Al** » Wed May 04, 2011 1:42 pm

Nystul wrote:Hidden satanic messages in Morse code.

An "e" is a devil message?

Lost_Highway · Post by **Lost_Highway** » Thu May 05, 2011 12:10 pm

Unkie Al wrote:
Nystul wrote:Hidden satanic messages in Morse code.
An "e" is a devil message?

"Mouth all dry, eyes blood-shot,
data stored in a microdot..."

MagicGeoff · Post by **MagicGeoff** » Fri May 27, 2011 2:11 pm

Musicologo wrote: Notice, also, that the last chord of them all in the last measure has an extra line on top of the top note that shouldn't be there.

Those are two engraver's mistakes.

No, only the first is a typo. The 'line' is a crotchet rest and it follows from the D natural minim at the start of the last bar of the fourth line.

Though it does look a little awkwardly placed, it is true.

Musicologo · Post by **Musicologo** » Fri May 27, 2011 6:43 pm

Again, I'm referring the line on TOP of the B6, an horizontal one, and not needed, not the rest that belongs to the measure "above". That line in the place of an eventual C7 shouldn't be there. Only in case someone actually wrote a C7 or a D7.

MaxSynths · Post by **MaxSynths** » Fri May 27, 2011 7:07 pm

That dot belongs to the first note. Look to the next two bars.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Fri May 27, 2011 7:19 pm

the line would then have a dotted half and a quarter, exceeding the time signature by the value of that dot. Try again.

MaxSynths · Post by **MaxSynths** » Fri May 27, 2011 8:08 pm

jancivil wrote:Try again.

That dot belongs to the first note?

Nystul · Post by **Nystul** » Sat May 28, 2011 8:07 am

It cannot belong to the first quarter note in the top line, because the top line has 3 quarter notes in that measure. Compare to the following measure where the top line goes dotted quarter, eighth, quarter. Unfortunately sometimes sheet music has mistakes.

What is this dot in Prokofieff's Visions Fugitives?