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narz3000 · Post by **narz3000** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:12 am

R.A.W. wrote:
narz3000 wrote:Load Live, drag in any wav file, load Turnado, move some knobs, make some changes, save the song, open the song and...

Turnado looks like you just openened it. Simply initialized.
must be something in your setup. i just reloaded a project i did with turnado and it loads just fine with all fx like i set them up.
do you use the full or the demo? the demo doesn't reload settings, it's a limitation of the demo.

btw @ Sugar Bytes: i would like if the key sync option would also turn the fx off in sync. the best would be to have that optional.

I used the one I downloaded from their website when I purchased it.

This is Sugar Bytes main forum right?

narz3000 · Post by **narz3000** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:48 am

I think I worked it out.

@SugarBytes, I will post another topic on this question, but how do you use the effects that have buffered audio?

All my settings are being saved. However, I have to automate the looper and effects like it to save the effect.

Here is my question:

If I have a piece of audio in my set mid way through the timeline and I have the looper (or any effect with buffered audio) automated to start at a certain point, how do I get it to play audio, without bouncing it down, of course?

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:25 pm

This plug-in is just so much fun!

jensa · Post by **jensa** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:49 pm

Sampleconstruct wrote:This plug-in is just so much fun!

+1000

plauto · Post by **plauto** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:09 pm

Sampleconstruct wrote:This plug-in is just so much fun!

Very nice, seems a sound of puppy monsters

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:24 pm

The audio demos sound great. As a guitar player none of your products made sense to me in a performance situation, but if I can get this to happen real time and assign cc control from my FCB1010 or StealthPedal, this might be an awesome tool.

Sugar Bytes · Post by **Sugar Bytes** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:29 pm

Hi Narz,

narz3000 wrote:I think I worked it out.

Uncheck the Setting "reset after load".
It's the setting that put your knobs down after you loaded your song.

narz3000 wrote: Here is my question:
If I have a piece of audio in my set mid way through the timeline and I have the looper (or any effect with buffered audio) automated to start at a certain point, how do I get it to play audio, without bouncing it down, of course?

I don't really understand the question, but be aware that the audio-sampling-effects need to be deactivated to sample audio. If they are activated before they could sample audio, they will just mute your track when their Dry/Wet control is set to 100%.

best
Rico

narz3000 · Post by **narz3000** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:47 am

Sugar Bytes wrote:Hi Narz,
narz3000 wrote:I think I worked it out.
Uncheck the Setting "reset after load".
It's the setting that put your knobs down after you loaded your song.

narz3000 wrote: Here is my question:
If I have a piece of audio in my set mid way through the timeline and I have the looper (or any effect with buffered audio) automated to start at a certain point, how do I get it to play audio, without bouncing it down, of course?
I don't really understand the question, but be aware that the audio-sampling-effects need to be deactivated to sample audio. If they are activated before they could sample audio, they will just mute your track when their Dry/Wet control is set to 100%.

best
Rico

Thank you Rico. Basically, I just want to know if it's possible to have one of the Turnado knobs dealing with audio sampling (i.e. Looper) set to, let's say, 40% at the very beginning of a piece of audio.

Also, I do understand the 'reset after load' function, so thank you.

If I mangle a piece of audio with Turnado and I throw that piece of audio somewhere in my arrangement, if the Looper knob is set to anything other than Zero the audio doesn't play.

Therefore, my only option is to bounce down the piece of audio, or automate the knob to jump from zero to 40% after the audio has already started.

However, if you do this you never get the same sound.

In addition, when you are using audio-sampling effects in your set, the only way to get them to stop playing is by turning the knob to zero, or automating the knob to zero.

Likewise, you never get the same sound.

Turnado is capable of making some incredible sounds, but, at this point I have to make bounced copies of everything I do just in case the next time I open my set it doesn't sound the same, which most of the time it doesn't.

I apologize for the lengthy and probably irritating question, but it's import to me to know that when I create a unique sound it's going to sound exactly the way it did when I saved my project.

At this point I can't count on that. Like I said, I have to make two copies of everything just in case the 'looper' knob happens to fall on the very beginning of the audio file.

I love the product. It's a hell of a lot of fun, and I appreciate any advice you can give us on this matter. It's just a issue I have not been able to work out myself.

Thank you.

Sugar Bytes · Post by **Sugar Bytes** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:06 am

Hi Narz,

the Looper effect in Turnado has a "Trigger" feature.
Whenever this control gets above 50%, the Looper will resample,
so when this control is modulated by the main knob or a modulator,
the Looper will pickup audio also when it has been activated before audio was playing.

You should use automation in order to have the Turnado knobs exactly where you want them in the right place in your song.
I cant reproduce that an automated looper knob sounds different after I reloaded the song... That would mean that the automation values have changed
or the audio track has moved without the automation curve.
At the moment it seems to make sense to bounce the "unique sound" so you dont loose it. Then you could try to find out, if the looper takes a different piece of audio after song reload. Maybe you can strip it down to a single audio file, so you could send the project if the change of sound is easily reproducable...

best
Rico

narz3000 · Post by **narz3000** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:43 pm

Sugar Bytes wrote:Hi Narz,

the Looper effect in Turnado has a "Trigger" feature.
Whenever this control gets above 50%, the Looper will resample,
so when this control is modulated by the main knob or a modulator,
the Looper will pickup audio also when it has been activated before audio was playing.

You should use automation in order to have the Turnado knobs exactly where you want them in the right place in your song.
I cant reproduce that an automated looper knob sounds different after I reloaded the song... That would mean that the automation values have changed
or the audio track has moved without the automation curve.
At the moment it seems to make sense to bounce the "unique sound" so you dont loose it. Then you could try to find out, if the looper takes a different piece of audio after song reload. Maybe you can strip it down to a single audio file, so you could send the project if the change of sound is easily reproducable...

best
Rico

Understood. I'm sure I'll work out a solution. Thank you for your advice.

I have to let it be know that any limitation of Turnado that might have been suggested by my comments is far outweighed by the amazing possibilities of this plugin.

Turnado is killer dude!

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:15 pm

Crushing drums with Turnado and other Plugs

pum · Post by **pum** » Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:18 am

I also have problems with saving in Turnado. Unchecked the box, reinstalled full version, rebooted, trashed prefs...
Interestingly, changes works fine in AU, but not with VST. Anyone?
I sooo love this plugin, fantastic also on deep, dirty dubby stuff...

ariston · Post by **ariston** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:54 am

Here's a track I did the other night using an fx chain Stutter Edit > Turnado on a fairly simple mallet loop. It's a bit long, but I had so much fun morphing the original sound... I couldn't stop!

http://soundcloud.com/ariston/heretic

I found that I like Turnado best when I set the dry/wet to 0 initially. It's more difficult to get usable results when the effect kicks in rapidly - at least on melodic material. Fading the effects in and out opens up some very subtle modulations.

Sugar Bytes · Post by **Sugar Bytes** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:00 pm

Hi,

we just uploaded the fresh Turnado 1.0.1 update!

We fixed all known bugs and added the new Randomize button.

This feature allows you to load random effect setups for even
more fun and devastating sounds!

Download the update or the new demo now!

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Oliver Schmitt · Post by **Oliver Schmitt** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:36 pm

hey guys! turnado is a bomb !!!

breathtaking intuitive, xxxxxtreme flexible and much much fun to use...all you need to create interesting beats and perfect for my sound design!

greetz,
olli

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