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c3boy · Post by **c3boy** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:09 pm

Been a while since I posted, but that's because I put my Receptor Rev C away for live use and went back to hardware. Now I want to use it in my rig again. Are all you live user guys running it through a conditioner first?

c3boy · Post by **c3boy** » Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:24 pm

Apparently a UPS is the way to go.

TWB121234 · Post by **TWB121234** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:49 am

I use a conditioner with a very modest battery backup. I can't say that I had much trouble prior to using a conditioner, but things have been very stable since I started using one. The reason I decided to get one was that I started having a few bar gigs again and I was concerned about continuous good power being available. I think I paid about $45 or something like that. I think it's worth it?
Tom

c3boy · Post by **c3boy** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:30 am

Tom, may I ask what you got?

TWB121234 · Post by **TWB121234** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:31 pm

I believe it is a "Cyberpower". It's packed away from last weekends gigs and I'm at the office now. I'll try to remember to take a look later. APC makes some nice ones. I just made a trip to the local Micro Center to buy mine and scoped out what they had and then looked at my wallet to see what I could afford

I'm hoping the battery back-up part will keep power levels up during minor power "brownings", and give me time to properly shut down Receptor in case of a total failure. In any case, it's got to be better than the cheezy power strips I was using. Cheers -
Tom

Kevin@MuseResearch · Post by **Kevin@MuseResearch** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:45 pm

Power conditioning is not really needed for receptors and can even shorten the life of older Receptor power supplies (like the one you may have on your Rev. C). many power conditioners, especially inexpensive ones, have a passive LC filter that forces the current waveform to be out of phase with the voltage waveform. Current EC regulations require that any computer device have what is called "automatic power factor correction" that attempts to correct for phase differences between the voltage and current waveforms. In extreme cases, especially at high voltages, this can cause the older receptor power supplies to burn out if run continually through a power conditioner because they are actually having to do more work to correct the phase differences. Newer Receptor 2s have a power supply that is a little bit more robust at doing this phase correction (just improvements in the technology) so its less of an issue for them.

- Kevin

TWB121234 · Post by **TWB121234** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:52 am

Good information Kevin - thank you

dustnic · Post by **dustnic** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:02 am

I actually have two options:
1. http://www.furmansound.com/product.php? ... d=AC-210AE
2. powering my receptor through a small UPS just for cleaning out voltage spikes and avoiding eventual power outages

Are you saying that I should avoid both of the two options?

Kevin@MuseResearch wrote:Power conditioning is not really needed for receptors and can even shorten the life of older Receptor power supplies (like the one you may have on your Rev. C). many power conditioners, especially inexpensive ones, have a passive LC filter that forces the current waveform to be out of phase with the voltage waveform. Current EC regulations require that any computer device have what is called "automatic power factor correction" that attempts to correct for phase differences between the voltage and current waveforms. In extreme cases, especially at high voltages, this can cause the older receptor power supplies to burn out if run continually through a power conditioner because they are actually having to do more work to correct the phase differences. Newer Receptor 2s have a power supply that is a little bit more robust at doing this phase correction (just improvements in the technology) so its less of an issue for them.

- Kevin

gary@museresearch · Post by **gary@museresearch** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:06 pm

It is fine to use a UPS back up. The nice thing about them is if the power goes out you will have time to turn off the Receptor properly.

-Gary

c3boy · Post by **c3boy** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:31 pm

Thanks for all the info guys. What stopped me using it was it freezing at a pub gig. It was a Rev B at the time, but I was also plugging straight into shared power outlet with amps etc. I have bought an APC 325 UPS. It's compact, and I figure it was probably a brownout that caused mine to freeze. I never have trouble at home.

c3boy · Post by **c3boy** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:51 am

Well, had my first gig with my Rev C using the ATC UPS 325, and it worked flawlessly. I can't tell you how great it felt!

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