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Hello Sugar Bytes,

Does Thesys not feature a chord-input mode?

I was expecting to see a mode where you could input your own chords to play it like an arpeggiator too.

If not...it would be a very useful feature. When in chord input mode, the Notes in the top sequencer could be replaced with arp features like transposition. Similar to FM8's and Zebra2's arps.
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Please try Consequence, it's a very versatile arpeggiator
and works with direct midi input,

best
RIco
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j0hnny wrote:Hello Sugar Bytes,

Does Thesys not feature a chord-input mode?

I was expecting to see a mode where you could input your own chords to play it like an arpeggiator too.

If not...it would be a very useful feature. When in chord input mode, the Notes in the top sequencer could be replaced with arp features like transposition. Similar to FM8's and Zebra2's arps.
Way ahead of your time johnny... Just figured out why everyone was so wild about synths.. Yes these synth like Blue and Z3tar+... It the Arp/Sequencer thing.. Just throw in a Chord and....
Anyway, this chord input feature is all I need in Thesys... It will be bliss.
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Yeah, it's a shame not to include this into thesys to make it a complete sequencing tool. I do also own Consequence and that can't do it either. Consequence has to be set to up or down so lacks that extra depth in programming.

Rico, can this be considered as a possible update in the future?

Thanks
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I would prefer that Thesys didn't get bloated with features that aren't core to it's purpose. I would rather see Sugar Bytes develop a bespoke arpeggiator than to append arpeggiation features onto their rather excellent step sequencer. This is a personal view but I think there's a tendency for software developers to try and please every user request and quite often this means that products end up losing their core focus (and more importantly, their usability).

Not trolling, it's just that I don't believe Thesys to be disabled in it's current form.

JM
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I agree disability may of been a bit harsh. I have been using Thesys and think it's a great tool.

As a user of both Thesys and consequence I was a bit disappointed neither was capable of the above mentioned task.

Both are sequencers/arpeggiators, so the feature isn't worthy to be categorised as 'bloating'.

Rajah, if you're on windows, you may want to check this out. Looks great, Only a fraction of the cost!

http://www.hgsounds.com/shop/vst-plugins/arp-vsti

(I'm on mac unfortunately)
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j0hnny wrote:I agree disability may of been a bit harsh. I have been using Thesys and think it's a great tool.

As a user of both Thesys and consequence I was a bit disappointed neither was capable of the above mentioned task.

Both are sequencers/arpeggiators, so the feature isn't worthy to be categorised as 'bloating'.

Rajah, if you're on windows, you may want to check this out. Looks great, Only a fraction of the cost!

http://www.hgsounds.com/shop/vst-plugins/arp-vsti

(I'm on mac unfortunately)
Thanks... 15 minutes of testing and.. I feel for you (being Mac)... This tool is A-MAZING..
No need to get Nexus2 or other Synths right now. This guy is robbing himself by just asking $20. for it.. :-o
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j0hnny wrote:http://www.hgsounds.com/shop/vst-plugins/arp-vsti

(I'm on mac unfortunately)
Thanks for the link. Unfortunately I'm on a mac as well.

The only options on the horizon so far seems to be either a Mac version of Catanya or update to Consequence that expands on functionality in the direction you speak of. I'd sold my copy of Consequence some time ago but I'm keeping an eye out to see if SB updates it with some cool new features. It's already putting midi out on three separate channels so if they could build on that with some flexible arp/seq options I'd love to see it.
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For those of you on OS X, this is definitely worth a look.

http://www.pentacom.jp/pentacom/arpg8r/

You can use the demo as much as you like for up to 20 mins and if you like it's only $11. It's produced by a Japanese developer and hasn't been updated in roughly 12 months but it works rock solid on my system (10.6.8 using Ableton Live 8.2.5)

On a completely different level is Numerology Pro - http://five12.com/

Easily my favourite step sequencing modular environment. If it's just arpeggiation you're after it's overkill but download the demo you certainly won't be disappointed. The VST version is easiest to set up but if you're a Logic user the AU works too.

JM
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metrosonic wrote:For those of you on OS X, this is definitely worth a look.

http://www.pentacom.jp/pentacom/arpg8r/
I took a look at that one a while ago. It's nice but I got a better vibe with these two:

Kirnu: http://www.artovaarala.com/
Hypercyclic: http://www.mucoder.net/en/hypercyclic/

And even though I own and use Numerology daily I'd still like to see something cool happen on the Consequence front.
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Kirnu looks very nice indeed. Definitely going to check that one out. 100% agreement about Consequence. To me it seems a far more appropriate app for a supercharged arpeggiation toolset.
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Agreed...I suppose the correct feature request would be to change the functionality of the arp mode in Consequence. Instead of choosing up/down or straight...it displays a digit which transposes the step based on the incoming note(s).

Arpg8r & Mucoder tools look fun. Interesting example on vimeo Uncleage.
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I think a 'custom scale' can be a compromise for a chord input feature.. May not be that difficult to implement.. :tu:
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j0hnny wrote:Agreed...I suppose the correct feature request would be to change the functionality of the arp mode in Consequence. Instead of choosing up/down or straight...it displays a digit which transposes the step based on the incoming note(s).

Arpg8r & Mucoder tools look fun. Interesting example on vimeo Uncleage.
Lately I've been playing around with Zyklus Improvisor. As much as I like it I must admit the inability to edit things graphically after input can be a bit limiting at times. And then I remembered this idea you threw out there. Now that I have thought about it some more your idea is/was pretty awesome. I thought about making a separate thread but I think this idea belongs here. However, I want to expand on it just a tad...

1) Enhance Thesys with the ability to recognize chords and change to the corresponding scale (optional on each sequence).
2) Allow more than one sequence/track to play back at once. Let's say 8.
3) Allow the user to choose which channel the midi is output on.

This should work in most hosts. If not then a virtual midi cable might be in order. Either way, this would make Thesys a very powerful tool, IMO. Keeping in mind that each sequence would already have the ability to work separate at different tempo's (multiples of host) and exists at different lengths.

//Please keep in mind that I am thinking of each pattern being a different sequence.//

As a bonus there could be a mode where the screen would display all 8 tracks for a given tool like note, velocity or gate sequencers. Maybe even some tools to always play a series an octave(1,2,3) lower or higher than the lowest or highest note tracked on input.

I think none of this has overlap with how I remember Consequence. However, if there was another track in Thesys that just recorded the incoming chords, well, I can't say that would hurt my feelings either.
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Bump for 2012. 8)
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