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AdmiralQuality · Post by **AdmiralQuality** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:58 am

The name doesn't bother me. Lots of music products are named after things that have some negative connotations. My Poly-Ana is named after an annoyingly optimistic person. But that's kind of the point, she's eager to please. Also it's misspelled to make a nice pun with POLYphonic-ANAlog synth. That's the one suggestion I would make regarding name. If you can, try to make a word that doesn't exist yet. (How was I to know that "polyana" is phonetic Russian for "glade"?)

My favorite will still always be "Big Muff Pi".

darsho · Post by **darsho** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:50 am

karrikuh wrote: Well, when I chose the name I considered a "charlatan" as just a person who pretends to be someone (s)he isn't (hint to virtual analog). Also, I just thought it sounded good. I admit that the true meaning is rather bad from a marketing point of view and I'm seriously considering a name change for the final 1.0 release. I'm open to suggestions, but please keep the name short, simple and memorizable!

I think the name Charlatan is good, you should keep it.

It would be good to be able to chose among several background colors, though.
The GUI design is very good, plain and simple, the way I like it.

darsho · Post by **darsho** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:58 am

Teksonik wrote:Something like this would be easy on the eyes for long periods...........

I like that color.

Teksonik wrote:If there was an RGB color switch on the GUI I'd probably choose this color.............

this color pleases my eyes.

cosmosis wrote:Personally, I would prefer a Windows 3.1 look:

I think RunBeerRun has copyrighted such colors exclusively for his plugins, so you might get trouble using it

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:09 am

Hi,

i just found a little time to check Charlatan v0.9.2.

The sound os OK but there are some things lacking:

- a preset browser, at least inside the DAW. When i load a fxp file the settings are loaded but the name is displayed nowhere.

- A Sawtooth in OSC1. With out this you could not even do a simple Synth Brass

- An Unison with adjustable voices would be nice. This could replace the missing Sawtooth in OSC1.

- More LFO waveforms like Saw, Ramp, Sine, S&H or Random

EDIT:
The Sawtooth in OSC1 seems to be available with the Shape nob at maximum value.

Ingo

bpblog · Post by **bpblog** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:41 am

Ingonator wrote:Hi,

i just found a little time to check Charlatan v0.9.2.

The sound os OK but there are some things lacking:

- a preset browser, at least inside the DAW. When i load a fxp file the settings are loaded but the name is displayed nowhere.

- A Sawtooth in OSC1. With out this you could not even do a simple Synth Brass

- An Unison with adjustable voices would be nice. This could replace the missing Sawtooth in OSC1.

- More LFO waveforms like Saw, Ramp, Sine, S&H or Random

Ingo

you can get a saw in OSC1 by tweaking the shape of the triangle waveform.

GaryG · Post by **GaryG** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:11 am

Ingonator wrote:- More LFO waveforms like Saw, Ramp, Sine, S&H or Random

I'd second that, particular a s&h or random one.

Actually, how would you define the differences between s&h and random?

AdmiralQuality · Post by **AdmiralQuality** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:17 am

GaryG wrote:
Ingonator wrote:- More LFO waveforms like Saw, Ramp, Sine, S&H or Random
I'd second that, particular a s&h or random one.

Actually, how would you define the differences between s&h and random?

A Sample and Hold circuit does exactly that. When triggered by the LFO, it samples some voltage and holds that amount steady at the output until triggered again.

When you S&H noise, you get the "random" modulator, because at any given time the waveform will be at an unpredictable level.

But on a modular with a S&H module you can apply it to any signal. Envelopes, LFO waveforms, etc. So you could say, chop up a ramp LFO wave into a staircase shape.

But usually S&H and "random" are used interchangeably. Most every classic poly-synth I can think of had the S&H (and like LFO there's typically only one, shared by all voices) hard-wired to the noise source. Usually it's just another LFO waveform option.

karrikuh · Post by **karrikuh** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:43 am

zeep wrote:Has the question for an OSX version already been booed?

Unlikely in the near future as I don't have a Mac. However, in general, I do have interest in porting Charlatan to other platforms.

Crackbaby · Post by **Crackbaby** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:59 am

Holy sh*t!!! This one sounds great!!!

I made a pad in a minute and i love the sound even WITHOUT effects

Normally i would, being spoiled in the virtual world, reach for some fx to make up for my programming .. but not needed here

Great job!

V'ger · Post by **V'ger** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:40 pm

+1 to keep the name. At first it seemed weird, but now I like it. It's kinda humorous but mostly sounds kool. It's also somewhat established now. Berzerk is more a kiddie name.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:14 pm

bpblog wrote:
Ingonator wrote:Hi,

i just found a little time to check Charlatan v0.9.2.

The sound os OK but there are some things lacking:

- a preset browser, at least inside the DAW. When i load a fxp file the settings are loaded but the name is displayed nowhere.

- A Sawtooth in OSC1. With out this you could not even do a simple Synth Brass

- An Unison with adjustable voices would be nice. This could replace the missing Sawtooth in OSC1.

- More LFO waveforms like Saw, Ramp, Sine, S&H or Random

Ingo
you can get a saw in OSC1 by tweaking the shape of the triangle waveform.

Thanks for your hint. With the Shape knob at maximum value the waveform is a Sawtooth indeed.

I am currently programming presets on my Moog Slim Phatty and such kind of Triange/Saw morph which is also possible with it could be really nice.

UPDATE:
There is another thread at KVR about doing the Brass sound from "Out Of Touch" from Hall & Oates: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&start=60

I have tried to reprogram this for Xils Synthix and Arturia Prophet V2 and now i tried to di the same with Charlatan:
https://rapidshare.com/files/843710500/ ... Test_1.mp3

Like with my Prophet V2 patches this incliúdes two Tracks with slightly different patches which are slightly panned (in Ableton Live 8 -15L and 15R) to make the sound wider.

Here are the two Charlatan patches i made for the demo:
https://rapidshare.com/files/283973213/ ... _Brass.zip

Those patches were created using the latest Charlatan v0.9.3 (released today).

Here are the demos with Prophet V2 and Synthix for comparison:
https://rapidshare.com/files/877356090/ ... Test_2.mp3
https://rapidshare.com/files/1424563927 ... Test_6.mp3

Ingo

darsho · Post by **darsho** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 5:31 pm

I now had ther time to play around with this synth a while.
Runs without any issues, Win XP, Reaper 4. Haven#t tested on my Win7 System.

I like the sound !
The simplicity of the layout makes it easy to create sounds.

bpblog · Post by **bpblog** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:38 pm

Ingonator wrote:I have tried to reprogram this for Xils Synthix and Arturia Prophet V2 and now i tried to di the same with Charlatan:
https://rapidshare.com/files/843710500/ ... Test_1.mp3

Like with my Prophet V2 patches this incliúdes two Tracks with slightly different patches which are slightly panned (in Ableton Live 8 -15L and 15R) to make the sound wider.

Here are the two Charlatan patches i made for the demo:
https://rapidshare.com/files/283973213/ ... _Brass.zip

love that patch, thanks for the download!

V'ger · Post by **V'ger** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:30 pm

Brilliant, thx for the new version. Stereo out, bank support.

Really like this little thing as does many judging by the page count here. (name and color is fine as it is for me)

Also cheers for the patches Ingo. (btw and ot, just curious: why are u using underscore in file names?)

Borogove · Post by **Borogove** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:12 pm

Another +1 for the name "Charlatan" here.

Charlatan v1.4.1 - free VA synth (Win VSTi 32-/64-bit)