KVR Audio

des · Post by **des** » Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:06 pm

What multitasking audio apps are out for IOS / iPad? I was looking at StepPolyArp and it said its multitasking and creates a virtual port that another Core Midi compatible multitasking app could use.. It appears that Sunriser, Nlog Pro, iMS20 are not....

Dewaine · Post by **Dewaine** » Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:24 pm

Beatmaker 2 is the only sequencer I know of that multitasks.... iSyn Poly, Additive synth, and Argon are synths that are, and play in real time with BM2. Molten, a beat box, is as well. ALso "Tempo Advance" is, and it is a metronome. This is cool because you can use it with synths that do not have a metronome.....

BMoore · Post by **BMoore** » Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:57 pm

But there are no apps to actually record playing the multitasking apps?

Dewaine · Post by **Dewaine** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:23 am

No. I think at this point it is a limitation in the OS itself ( I may be wrong about that) but some say something could be in the works to change that, Apple adding core midi and core audio was huge, so perhaps there is more goodness to come. I must also confess that with Steve gone, I am afraid continued innovation is in question...... Love him or hate him he took apple from the brink of death to where they are today, bigger than Intel and Microsoft combined.

Leslie · Post by **Leslie** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:28 am

Also BassLine, MO Drum and latest addition rather excellent Genome - Midi sequencer.
Expect more coming i.e NLog Pro and Sound Prism (both in final Beta) will also feature background Audio and virtual Midi...
Exciting times ahead for iOS users indeed.
Btw; Addictive Synth and iSyn Poly do NOT multitask, I don't have Argon, but I do have Xenon from the same Developer and that doesn't work either

Locus M · Post by **Locus M** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:48 am

Leslie wrote:Btw; Addictive Synth and iSyn Poly do NOT multitask, I don't have Argon, but I do have Xenon from the same Developer and that doesn't work either

Yes they do. Addictive, iSyn Poly and Argon. They work with BM2 on my iPad2. You just have to start them as the first thing when you open your iPad and then start BM2. If you start BM2 first and then the synts, they won't work.

Try this: Open iSyn Poly -> close it again -> Open BM2 -> open iSyn Poly

and you should be ready to go.

Leslie · Post by **Leslie** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:55 am

Nope, it only proves that BM2 can multitask and not other way around.
As soon as you minimize any of these apps, they stop audio and midi - very different to the proper behavior of apps like MO Drum and BassLine

Btw; This is what true midi/audio multitasking is all about:

http://www.finger-pro.com/

...and of course here:

http://www.instrum3ntal.com/news/what-i ... di-on-ios/

Locus M · Post by **Locus M** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:07 am

Leslie wrote:Nope, it only proves that BM2 can multitask and not other way around.

Not entirely correct. Even if your app is not able to stream background audio it still needs to have multitasking to work with other background audio apps. Thus you can either make your app 1) able to work with background streaming apps 2) make it a background audio app itself or 3) both. Ask kuniklo, he is just implementing it on Grainbender. That is also the reason why BM2 won't work with all synts. At the end of the day, I can run BM2 in the background while playing and recording on iSyn and Addictive. I can not time sync their sequensers to BM2, but I can sure have BM2 running in the background while playing the synths manually or manually trigger their sequensers and that is all I need.

Cheers

Leslie · Post by **Leslie** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:34 am

I think you are missing the point here and didn't even bother to look at the links attached in my previous post.
The multitasking idea between music apps is more about virtual midi implementation and not just about background audio.
Let's say I have midi sequencer (Genome), drum machine (MODrum) and couple of (non existing yet) synths that I can record and sync to Genome, get it?
Currently only Genome, MODrum, Bassline and Gruvtron allow this to happen with NLog coming soon.
For me this is exactly the same principle as using Cubase in tandem with Reason and multiple VSTis.
Just jamming to the sound of other app is like listening to iPod while surfing the net...

Locus M · Post by **Locus M** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:21 am

Leslie wrote:The multitasking idea between music apps is more about virtual midi implementation and not just about background audio.

Wrong! Virtual midi has just been implementet in a few apps recently. Until now multitasking has been about background audio. And I already knew about your links.

But I am not trying to have an argument with you here, which I believe you think I am, since you are using an offending tone. What is important to me is that people are not misled by misinformation and in this respect, the facts about iSyn Poly, Addictive and Argon are that they

1) have multitasking in form of backround audio and thus can run with BM2, Molten and Funkbox running in the background.

2) They do not have multitasking in terms of virtual midi ports, but most multitasking apps haven't at this stage.

Then the disagreements should be over, right? Unless you want to make it a discussion of terminology. In that case call it what you want as long as you do not deny 1).

Locus M · Post by **Locus M** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:59 am

double post

Leslie · Post by **Leslie** » Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:09 am

And another one...

...and two more...

http://vimeo.com/28172152

BMoore · Post by **BMoore** » Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:38 pm

Soundprism Pro looks cool, but it's too expensive.

ruud07 · Post by **ruud07** » Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:30 pm

Soundprism Pro is only $16, not bad for a midi controller.

BMoore · Post by **BMoore** » Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:08 pm

More like $21 in my Appstore.
Not a big deal, but an expensive app. Too bad, but I'm looking at alternatives.

Multitasking IOS apps?