Beta version of MDynamicEq available, optinions?

[IIRs]

you want the dynamic gain actually work only after exceeding certain threshold, right?

Yes. I just want a simple "Threshold" control that I (and any other audio engineer) can immediately understand and use. If you want to label Ratio as "Dynamics" that's ok, just so long as I know what it does.

[MeldaProduction]

you want the dynamic gain actually work only after exceeding certain threshold, right?

Yes. I just want a simple "Threshold" control that I (and any other audio engineer) can immediately understand and use. If you want to label Ratio as "Dynamics" that's ok, just so long as I know what it does.

That's the second question . The dynamic gain will still be in dB, no complicated ratio.

[IIRs]

The dynamic gain will still be in dB, no complicated ratio.

Whatever you call it, what does it actually do? Is it actually a ratio control in all but name, or is in some way combined with a Range function (which is implied by the dB scale?)

[MeldaProduction]

The dynamic gain will still be in dB, no complicated ratio.

Whatever you call it, what does it actually do? Is it actually a ratio control in all but name, or is in some way combined with a Range function (which is implied by the dB scale?)

No, it would do the same thing as it does now - increase input level above the threshold -> the gain of the band rises (or falls depending on your dynamic gain). Currently it rises linearily with the input peak level (thus in logarithmic scale) as it is reasonable with "silence" threshold. It could be adjusted though...

The thing is that this dynamic gain is very easy to understand and control, while ratio is, uh, very unfriendly...

[MeldaProduction]

Ok, folks, so here is hopefully the last beta:

32-bit: http://www.meldaproduction.com/download ... _setup.exe
64-bit: http://www.meldaproduction.com/download ... _setup.exe

It now has all the "improvements" - autolist on click, threshold, dynamic bandpass monitor, new slope filter...

Please check it out and let me know, then we will go for the official release!

[Mercado_Negro]

Wow! Just wow! I worked with something like this from another company but they never released it and stayed at beta (for over 2 years now, really wish they release it someday since it's one of the most powerful and best sounding EQs I've tried). The concept was pretty similar and most parameters were identical. Good to know we'll see something "official" soon. Good work, Vojtech!

This plug-in I'm talking about had something interesting: "pre-defined" curves, taken from vintage units (Neve, API, SSL, etc) as well as an "analog mode" for each band (5 modes) which added non-linearities, etc. I like dynamic EQs a lot (I own Sonalksis DQ1) since it seems to me that's the best tool to get smooth and more "natural" results. I've been looking for a dynamic EQ (64bit) with these features, have you thought about it or is it even possible now in its current state?

Cheers!

[MeldaProduction]

Wow! Just wow! I worked with something like this from another company but they never released it and stayed at beta (for over 2 years now, really wish they release it someday since it's one of the most powerful and best sounding EQs I've tried). The concept was pretty similar and most parameters were identical. Good to know we'll see something "official" soon. Good work, Vojtech!

This plug-in I'm talking about had something interesting: "pre-defined" curves, taken from vintage units (Neve, API, SSL, etc) as well as an "analog mode" for each band (5 modes) which added non-linearities, etc. I like dynamic EQs a lot (I own Sonalksis DQ1) since it seems to me that's the best tool to get smooth and more "natural" results. I've been looking for a dynamic EQ (64bit) with these features, have you thought about it or is it even possible now in its current state?

Cheers!

Hehe thanks!
With the "pre-defined" curves, the thing is that this may mean absolutely anything . There are many many curves, so you need to be more specific. Here you have the "saturation", which basically adds the "nonlinearities". Personally I'm not a fan of vintage simulations, but occasional imperfections may be good .

[mljung]

Ok, folks, so here is hopefully the last beta:

32-bit: http://www.meldaproduction.com/download ... _setup.exe
64-bit: http://www.meldaproduction.com/download ... _setup.exe

It now has all the "improvements" - autolist on click, threshold, dynamic bandpass monitor, new slope filter...

Please check it out and let me know, then we will go for the official release!

Yes - Yes - Yes

What a perfect implementation of my auto-listen bandpass filter suggestion, with it's "integrated" filter curve adjustment...



I love it!

::
Mads

[miro pajic]

can't wait for mac beta

[IIRs]

Now we're talking Latest version is a vast improvement! I finally mangaged to create a setting that could pick just the snare drum out of a full mix for example.

Of course, once the threshold was raised to a suitable level the ratio was much too low, but I managed to create a higher ratio setting by tweaking the advanced editor... I still think a Ratio control would be much easier, but I might be able to live with this method. I need to dive in and do some proper work with it to really know for sure.

Small point: the right-click menu for the bands currently mis-labels the "Dynamics" parameter as "Gain".

Small request: would it be possible to incorporate a sidechain level meter into the right-click menu, preferably just below (or even superimposed on to) the threshold slider. This would make it much easier to quickly set the threshold relative to the (filtered) sidechain levels.

I was half-way through re-iterating the request for a sidechain listen option when I realised it was there already: great stuff!

Anyway, I have a couple of questions about the sidechain filtering options. First let me check my assumptions about how it works normally: assuming you have NOT enabled the tuneable high and low-pass filters, and that the Mode is set to Filtered or Filtered Compensated, the sidechain should be processed by a single filter, and the type and settings will be determined by the EQ settings. Eg: a peaking EQ band will have a bandpass filter at the same frequency, and a low-shelf will have a low-pass filter. Did I get that right?

So, I had assumed that if you then enabled the tuneable high and low-pass filters, these would replace the default sidechain filter rather than be switched in as well. Did I get that part right?

The problem is, the dynamic behaviour in my test setup always seems to change when I change the EQ frequency, so I need to adjust the threshold each time... this makes me suspect that I got the last part wrong, as otherwise the sidechain levels would not be changing.

To be more specific; I set the sidechain high and low-pass filters to about 100Hz and 200Hz respectively, to isolate the low meat of the snare drum, while initially setting the EQ band to about 2KHz. I tuned the trheshold accordingly, and created a suitable ratio setting with the graph editor, and managed to achieve a healthy boost on every snare hit and no-where else.

I then tweaked the EQ up to 3KHz instead of 2KHz... I was hoping that the dynamic behaviour would not be affected at all, and that my boosts would simply affect a higher frequency, but in fact it broke my dynamic settings and I had to adjust the threshold again.

Could you shed some light on that for me please?

[John-E34]

Great job, Right clicking the settings icon brings up the Advanced settings - fantastic.

If you have a "to-do" list for whem things get quiet, could you increase the font size slightly for the settings dialogs and pop-up messages.

The main gui can be enlarged ok, but the text used elsewhere is minuscule.

Looking forward to the release.

[MeldaProduction]

Yes - Yes - Yes

What a perfect implementation of my auto-listen bandpass filter suggestion, with it's "integrated" filter curve adjustment...



I love it!

::
Mads

Thank you . Btw. did you check the "slope" filters? What do you think about how it is controlled?

[MeldaProduction]

Great job, Right clicking the settings icon brings up the Advanced settings - fantastic.

If you have a "to-do" list for whem things get quiet, could you increase the font size slightly for the settings dialogs and pop-up messages.

The main gui can be enlarged ok, but the text used elsewhere is minuscule.

Looking forward to the release.

Thanks . Btw. go to Settings/Style and change the fonts for yourself .

[MeldaProduction]

Small point: the right-click menu for the bands currently mis-labels the "Dynamics" parameter as "Gain".

Yeah, well, this is partially intentional , but obviously confusing. You know it's "dynamic gain", but that's too long for the main screen and there's already another gain... damn it, it will be "Dynamics" and that's it...

Small request: would it be possible to incorporate a sidechain level meter into the right-click menu, preferably just below (or even superimposed on to) the threshold slider. This would make it much easier to quickly set the threshold relative to the (filtered) sidechain levels.

Yeah, well, it's not that simple, but I'll see what I can do.

I was half-way through re-iterating the request for a sidechain listen option when I realised it was there already: great stuff!

Thanks

Anyway, I have a couple of questions about the sidechain filtering options. First let me check my assumptions about how it works normally: assuming you have NOT enabled the tuneable high and low-pass filters, and that the Mode is set to Filtered or Filtered Compensated, the sidechain should be processed by a single filter, and the type and settings will be determined by the EQ settings. Eg: a peaking EQ band will have a bandpass filter at the same frequency, and a low-shelf will have a low-pass filter. Did I get that right?

Yes, that's correct.

So, I had assumed that if you then enabled the tuneable high and low-pass filters, these would replace the default sidechain filter rather than be switched in as well. Did I get that part right?

No. This would make sense, but as it is more "scientific", I assume the user knows what he wants and he may want to use both filters. For example with peak filter you may just want to limit the bandwidth even more, from one side for example. Of course you can do similar thing with just the bandpass, but this is faster.
So you need to switch to the "Entire spectrum" mode.

The problem is, the dynamic behaviour in my test setup always seems to change when I change the EQ frequency, so I need to adjust the threshold each time... this makes me suspect that I got the last part wrong, as otherwise the sidechain levels would not be changing.

Yeah , that's correct .

To be more specific; I set the sidechain high and low-pass filters to about 100Hz and 200Hz respectively, to isolate the low meat of the snare drum, while initially setting the EQ band to about 2KHz. I tuned the trheshold accordingly, and created a suitable ratio setting with the graph editor, and managed to achieve a healthy boost on every snare hit and no-where else.

I then tweaked the EQ up to 3KHz instead of 2KHz... I was hoping that the dynamic behaviour would not be affected at all, and that my boosts would simply affect a higher frequency, but in fact it broke my dynamic settings and I had to adjust the threshold again.

Could you shed some light on that for me please?

Yeah, so just switch to "Entire spectrum" mode .

[mljung]

Yes - Yes - Yes

What a perfect implementation of my auto-listen bandpass filter suggestion, with it's "integrated" filter curve adjustment...



I love it!

::
Mads

Thank you . Btw. did you check the "slope" filters? What do you think about how it is controlled?

Not yet but I will...

::
Mads