I really hope we get voice panning as per the Tyrell hack - makes a big difference to polysynth sounds.Urs wrote: Diva's voice architecture is strictly mono
Diva teaser at U-He website
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- KVRAF
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
+the lovely Juno-60 chorus soundhakey wrote:I really hope we get voice panning as per the Tyrell hack - makes a big difference to polysynth sounds.Urs wrote: Diva's voice architecture is strictly mono
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- KVRist
- 140 posts since 28 Apr, 2004 from switzerland
i hope my wife has no birthday and christmas gift for meUrs wrote:Gimme another few days. I had to 3d-model a whole dozen types of knobs and stuff, and a mindboggling amount of tick marks around them. The faceplate of a certain monosynth is finished, now I need to whip up the polysynths and the filter sections of yet another monosynth which has two filters (we only take its filters for now... oscillators etc. are covered better by other synths)Bronto Scorpio wrote:Screenshots!!! NOW!!!Urs wrote:Almost finished with GUI design - can't wait to post it...
Cheers
Dennis
In addition we're discussing a last minute inclusion of a third envelope. Either as a simple AD one (think jp8000) or as a full blown MSEG. This may affect the layout quite a bit
So... sheesh... there's still a lot of work ahead, but we keep pushing!
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- u-he
- 30222 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Both, yes.3ee wrote:+the lovely Juno-60 chorus soundhakey wrote:I really hope we get voice panning as per the Tyrell hack - makes a big difference to polysynth sounds.Urs wrote: Diva's voice architecture is strictly mono
Regarding the Chorus, I found the one in the Juno 60 too noisy (doesn't have a compander) and the alpha Juno too flat (uses a compander, but worse lower cutoff I guess). I tried a more or less proper bucket brigade model, but ended up with normal dsp code. Sounds pretty good tho - no noise, full width
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- KVRAF
- 1888 posts since 13 Aug, 2011 from Berlin
Urs wrote:We will however add this stuff to Zebra and hence Zebrify. But because Zebra isn't an emulation, maybe we can trade accuracy for a few cpu cycles. I'm thinking a mode for the XMF, and 3 new filter types for the VCFs, each based on the circuit simulation technique. It doesn't need to sound exactly like Mr. Zimmer's Minimoog, it would be okay if it sounded like any.
I could live with JUST THAT!!!
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- u-he
- 30222 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
(Uhm, I just realised that Hans gave us his Mini because he needs *Zebra* to sound like it... well, we can make tradeoffs in the other filters then )
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- KVRAF
- 1888 posts since 13 Aug, 2011 from Berlin
I guess that his Mini doesn't sound exceptionally bad so I could live with that, too.Urs wrote:(Uhm, I just realised that Hans gave us his Mini because he needs *Zebra* to sound like it... well, we can make tradeoffs in the other filters then
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- KVRAF
- 5234 posts since 25 Feb, 2008
So a decent generic chorus but not a vintage chorus emulation?Urs wrote: I tried a more or less proper bucket brigade model, but ended up with normal dsp code. Sounds pretty good tho - no noise, full width
(I was kind of hoping we might get something along the lines of the Solina ensemble.)
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- Banned
- 6129 posts since 9 Oct, 2007 from an inharmonious society
Diva sounds very interesting.
Good luck with the Diva project Urs.
I wonder if having 8gb ram on a coreduo2 mac will help more in using Diva, more than only having 4gb ram.
Good luck with the Diva project Urs.
I wonder if having 8gb ram on a coreduo2 mac will help more in using Diva, more than only having 4gb ram.
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- u-he
- 30222 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
No worries. It sounds goodhakey wrote:So a decent generic chorus but not a vintage chorus emulation?Urs wrote: I tried a more or less proper bucket brigade model, but ended up with normal dsp code. Sounds pretty good tho - no noise, full width
(I was kind of hoping we might get something along the lines of the Solina ensemble.)
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- KVRian
- 657 posts since 2 May, 2002 from Kalispell, MT
I'm probably the only one but please, please hold off for a couple months. I gots teh mad hardware GAS going right now thx to Bob, Tom and Dave. I know I'm going to want DIVA when it comes out but, I NEED hardware!
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- KVRAF
- 24447 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
I don't think so. It's a CPU muncher, not a RAM-eating sample library!mcnoone wrote:I wonder if having 8gb ram on a coreduo2 mac will help more in using Diva, more than only having 4gb ram.
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- u-he
- 30222 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
News... hmmm.... where to start?
Howie has arrived in Berlin and we've started tweaking things.
I'm convinced now that all known papers about the Minimoog are wrong, or at least omitt numerous properties that are relevant to the sound. We had to create an array of little trimpots to bend levels, dc offsets and curves before, within and after the filter. These let us tune the filter and its surroundings so that we could bridge the gap between actual sound and theory. Our's has some nice properties, e.g. it does not fade as much when resonance comes in, and it's a tad brighter on lower notes (mostly because the VCA distortion seems to muffle the sound at times). However, we won't be afraid of double blind tests.
Btw. do not expect a Minimoog to do a 50Hz self oscillation oomph. It doesn't do that.
Or maybe Hans Zimmer had his Mini pimped in ways that are uncommon, yet offering the best Mini sound heard to date.
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Unlike previous observations, the State Variable filter as known from Jupiter 6, MKS80 and Alpha Junos (same chip as Juno 60 and Jupiter 8, but different circuitry around it) has gotten some love from me. It sounds fabulous with FilterFM. So it's "benign" character (or lack thereof) has its positive sides.
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Standard gui size will be 1200 x ca. 700 px. But as everything is set up in a 10px grid, we can go from about 840px(70%) to 2400px (200%) in steps of 10% without loosing sharpness or clarity. I'm contemplating to bring someone in to replace the labels with a pixel font for the small sizes. That's a few hours of tedious work, but I'd pay with a license...
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related: The user interface is making me very happy. She'll look as good as she sounds. Can't wait to get finished...
Urs
Howie has arrived in Berlin and we've started tweaking things.
I'm convinced now that all known papers about the Minimoog are wrong, or at least omitt numerous properties that are relevant to the sound. We had to create an array of little trimpots to bend levels, dc offsets and curves before, within and after the filter. These let us tune the filter and its surroundings so that we could bridge the gap between actual sound and theory. Our's has some nice properties, e.g. it does not fade as much when resonance comes in, and it's a tad brighter on lower notes (mostly because the VCA distortion seems to muffle the sound at times). However, we won't be afraid of double blind tests.
Btw. do not expect a Minimoog to do a 50Hz self oscillation oomph. It doesn't do that.
Or maybe Hans Zimmer had his Mini pimped in ways that are uncommon, yet offering the best Mini sound heard to date.
#---
Unlike previous observations, the State Variable filter as known from Jupiter 6, MKS80 and Alpha Junos (same chip as Juno 60 and Jupiter 8, but different circuitry around it) has gotten some love from me. It sounds fabulous with FilterFM. So it's "benign" character (or lack thereof) has its positive sides.
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Standard gui size will be 1200 x ca. 700 px. But as everything is set up in a 10px grid, we can go from about 840px(70%) to 2400px (200%) in steps of 10% without loosing sharpness or clarity. I'm contemplating to bring someone in to replace the labels with a pixel font for the small sizes. That's a few hours of tedious work, but I'd pay with a license...
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related: The user interface is making me very happy. She'll look as good as she sounds. Can't wait to get finished...
Urs