indistinguishable from hardware ??

[xamido]

This thread is fun, can i join in?

Same old digital vs analog. I don't care what people use, most of my favourite producer use digital and i like that digital sound. And yes, i think anyone trying to emulate older hardware have not done a really good job right now. But it might change in the future.

[trimph1]

It's not inconsistent.

its certainly inconsistent with any notion of 'real music by actual musicians' outside the imagination of anyone without an unnatural fondness for 1960's state-sponsored lithuanian toilet-cleaner advertisements.

You do have a way with words "Whyte"...

[Urs]

All software emulations of anologue synths fail miserably.

I agree. Thankfully Zebra doesn't emulate any particular hardware. It simply sounds better that way.

Thank you. Trying to emulate analogues is just the wrong thing to do at the moment. It's much better to create something unique, like you did.

How about a unique emulation then? Unique, as in, it sounds better than the originals it was modelled after?

[whyterabbyt]

It'd be funny if it was this guy:

http://soundcloud.com/izonin/80s-bliss-demo-song

izonin, if that *is* you... all this talk of taking music seriously... I mean where does one even start?

That's what I referred to as an anecdotal use of cheap/free instruments.

As in 'its okay if I do the opposite of what I say as long as I call it anecdotal'

[whyterabbyt]

Just for the record, I use my Selmer as a bow on my PRS and I do that anecdotally too.

[buttrock]

All software emulations of anologue synths fail miserably.

I agree. Thankfully Zebra doesn't emulate any particular hardware. It simply sounds better that way.

Thank you. Trying to emulate analogues is just the wrong thing to do at the moment. It's much better to create something unique, like you did.

How about a unique emulation then? Unique, as in, it sounds better than the originals it was modelled after?

you know how to get people drooling

[Meffy]

Well, despite the fact the last 7 pages have mostly been people replying to Izonin's trolling nonsense, I'll reply.

Having a contrary opinion isn't trolling. It might be disagreeably stated, and you (and I, for that matter) might consider the evidence wanting and the reasoning faulty, but if the poster really holds the opinion and isn't just trying to wind people up for the "fun" of watching the fight, I wouldn't call it trolling.

A troll just wants reactions, positive or -- far better -- negative, to keep the pot boiling. I don't think izonin is trolling. Most of what he said was wrong IMO, but that's not the same thing. I figure he really does believe what he's saying. *shrug* To me it doesn't seem worth disputing past a post or two but maybe I'm weird that way (can't eat popcorn any longer).

[izonin]

All software emulations of anologue synths fail miserably.

I agree. Thankfully Zebra doesn't emulate any particular hardware. It simply sounds better that way.

Thank you. Trying to emulate analogues is just the wrong thing to do at the moment. It's much better to create something unique, like you did.

How about a unique emulation then? Unique, as in, it sounds better than the originals it was modelled after?

I know that the algorithms are there. But I doubt it could run on current CPUs.

[izonin]

It'd be funny if it was this guy:

http://soundcloud.com/izonin/80s-bliss-demo-song

izonin, if that *is* you... all this talk of taking music seriously... I mean where does one even start?

That's what I referred to as an anecdotal use of cheap/free instruments.

As in 'its okay if I do the opposite of what I say as long as I call it anecdotal'

Exactly, that's the whole point.

[chk071]

All software emulations of anologue synths fail miserably.

I agree. Thankfully Zebra doesn't emulate any particular hardware. It simply sounds better that way.

Thank you. Trying to emulate analogues is just the wrong thing to do at the moment. It's much better to create something unique, like you did.

How about a unique emulation then? Unique, as in, it sounds better than the originals it was modelled after?

But that would be a bad emulation then again wouldn't it?

[trimph1]

It'd be funny if it was this guy:

http://soundcloud.com/izonin/80s-bliss-demo-song

izonin, if that *is* you... all this talk of taking music seriously... I mean where does one even start?

That's what I referred to as an anecdotal use of cheap/free instruments.

As in 'its okay if I do the opposite of what I say as long as I call it anecdotal'

Exactly, that's the whole point.

And we could have saved several pages by admitting this right form the get go.

[UltraJv]

it wouldnt be a true emulation without wooden cheeks

[izonin]

Well, despite the fact the last 7 pages have mostly been people replying to Izonin's trolling nonsense, I'll reply.

Having a contrary opinion isn't trolling. It might be disagreeably stated, and you (and I, for that matter) might consider the evidence wanting and the reasoning faulty, but if the poster really holds the opinion and isn't just trying to wind people up for the "fun" of watching the fight, I wouldn't call it trolling.

A troll just wants reactions, positive or -- far better -- negative, to keep the pot boiling. I don't think izonin is trolling. Most of what he said was wrong IMO, but that's not the same thing. I figure he really does believe what he's saying. *shrug* To me it doesn't seem worth disputing past a post or two but maybe I'm weird that way (can't eat popcorn any longer).

I'm trolling a bit, actually. I'm just curious to find how many people can't hear the difference.

[Captain]

"Any sufficiently advanced VST is indistinguishable from hardware."
-- Unknown

(sorry, just HAD to do that)

[whyterabbyt]

As in 'its okay if I do the opposite of what I say as long as I call it anecdotal'

Exactly, that's the whole point.[/quote]

great. just for orthogonality, as long as you call it by my preferred special-use adjective (ie 'shite') you're welcome to keep making all the banal jazz/classical crap you want