Diva teaser at U-He website
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- KVRAF
- 1888 posts since 13 Aug, 2011 from Berlin
After all the name dropping and buzz word calling you are that modest? Cool...Urs wrote:Well... we'll see.necho2 wrote:this sounds like the most awesome soft synth ever.
can't wait!
It certainly is a sweet spot synth - you can't go all too wrong. On the other hand side she's also very limited in her routing options and she doesn't do much else than 99% of the synths out there. She might just have that tad more attitude that some folks might have been missing elsewhere.
Urs
- KVRAF
- 2175 posts since 10 Mar, 2006
Urs is Chuck Yeager! 
"The educated person is one who knows how to find out what he does not know" - George Simmel
"I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." - Jesus Christ
"I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." - Jesus Christ
- u-he
- 30222 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Well, if there's one thing I've learned over the years then it's the myth that people make out of analogue sound. Many people seem to expect wonders from analogue stuff that the stuff simply does not deliver. While some of the new shitz may be loud and steamy and up front, most of the old classics are actually quite tame and mellow sounding for our ears.chacka wrote:After all the name dropping and buzz word calling you are that modest? Cool...
When we got into testing the Jupiter 8, Howie's comment was "sounds like Zebra". Which is true, as the 8 has some perfection and "un-annoyance" going that no other synth at our place has.
So Diva's strength won't be the be all end all wonder. Just another take on thick, cozy, concrete sound. Bit more direct than your common emulation. But nothing that replaces talent to make music.
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- KVRAF
- 10171 posts since 2 Jan, 2005 from somewhere in the woods
Urs wrote:
So Diva's strength won't be the be all end all wonder. Just another take on thick, cozy, concrete sound. Bit more direct than your common emulation. But nothing that replaces talent to make music.
"It dreamed itself along"
- KVRAF
- 4197 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
A bit more than "a bit more", from what I've heard so farUrs wrote:Bit more direct than your common emulation. But nothing that replaces talent to make music.
- KVRAF
- 2083 posts since 28 Feb, 2011
I must be one of those customers that U-He has been listening to then, because Diva sounds like a synth that might compete with Zebra for my affections 
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- KVRAF
- 2169 posts since 7 Dec, 2005
That's true, but...but...Urs wrote:Well, if there's one thing I've learned over the years then it's the myth that people make out of analogue sound. Many people seem to expect wonders from analogue stuff that the stuff simply does not deliver. While some of the new shitz may be loud and steamy and up front, most of the old classics are actually quite tame and mellow sounding for our ears.
I used to have an Oberheim 4-voice, that I got in trade from a music store for a pair of Yamaha A-4115A's (powered speakers)
It was broke at the time; so part of the deal was that the music store agreed to pay to have it fixed. So: it got fixed-I remember trying it for the first time in the store when it came back from the shop as a 4-voice polyphonic synth (I should also mention that it had the programmer) and being dissapointed because the sound was indeed thin. My friend who worked there noticed right away that I was dissapointed, and I believe offered to buy it back, but I decided to take it home, and work with it...
What I found is that yes, Urs: you are correct when you say that there is definately I dichotomy between the talk/reality of an analogue synth. Where your thinking breaks down is when you STACK those voices.
So to finish my boring story: What I found through a lot of experimentation is that my Oberheim 4-voice turned into a flesh-eating monster when I played it monophonically. The SEM oscillators stacked beautifully to create a wall-of-sound for a single note if everything was properly tuned-detuned.
Now: I don't think that stacking minimoog voices would necessarily produce the same effect-the osc's in a mini have so much character to begin with that it would probably create more of a mess if you ran 8 of them at once. But I don't know for sure-never had a chance to try that. The Memorymoog, on the other hand, sounds absolutely brilliant run monophonically because CEM3340 chips run the way that they are in that design will sonically fit neatly on top of eachother to form a single voice comprised of 18 VCO's.
That's right: 18 VCO's.
Point being that IF you build a stack of VCO's in a proper way, you most definately can experience the power of analogue, which really can kick ass.
- u-he
- 30222 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
You know, I do have a Memorymoog... it's thick, but nothing that Diva needs to be afraid of. (if I ever manage to get that unison stuff going)
- u-he
- 30222 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
(did I say something wrong?)mellotronaut wrote:Urs wrote:
So Diva's strength won't be the be all end all wonder. Just another take on thick, cozy, concrete sound. Bit more direct than your common emulation. But nothing that replaces talent to make music.![]()
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- KVRAF
- 2169 posts since 7 Dec, 2005
Are you talking thickness in mono or poly mode? In poly you have 3 osc's per voice; in mono all the voice cards are stacked. The sound is hughly thicker in mono. BTW: Is it an original 345A, and does it have the digital midi add-on and tuning tables extension? Just curiousUrs wrote:You know, I do have a Memorymoog... it's thick, but nothing that Diva needs to be afraid of. (if I ever manage to get that unison stuff going)
- KVRAF
- 2083 posts since 28 Feb, 2011
I don't blame you a bit for being curious, but for goodness sakes let's let Urs finish the damn thing!
- KVRAF
- 4197 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
Both Hans Zimmer and Mel Wesson noticed the similarity a few years ago. At that time I was claiming that Zebra2 has no inherent character, and therefore couldn't have a "basic sound similar to the Jupiter 8". I changed my mind - these days I'll happily admit that clean is the character that characterizes (sic) both the Jupiter 8 and Zebra2 emulations of same.Urs wrote:When we got into testing the Jupiter 8, Howie's comment was "sounds like Zebra". Which is true, as the 8 has some perfection and "un-annoyance" going that no other synth at our place has.
