Does Zebra ever go on sale?

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osiris wrote:Maybe a stupid question, but was just wondering. Or an upgrade from Zebralette. Probably even stupider considering it's free. I never play with Zebra because I know I'll want it, but right now it's costs about my car payment amount.
you have the dinosaur cross-grade... an ongoing discount... and every time there is a new update, you get a discount. I purchased Zebra when v2 was in beta. Since then there have been the equivalent of 2-3 full paid upgrades worth of improvements that many companies would charge for but with Zebra without any additional cost.

That Zebra keeps being developed in significant new ways is also a discount cause you do not need to buy something else to keep having access to new tech.

With all that additional value, I would not do group buys or offer specials either. Zebra is the best synth investment I have made.

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dreamkeeper wrote:How a special sale could be a "slap in the face" of existing customers, I've never understood and probably never will.
So your jaw wouldn't drop if you bought Waves Mercury for $4999 when you could have got it for $2999 (even though its 24 months later after you bought it)?
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pdxindy wrote:Zebra is the best synth investment I have made.
+1!!
Don't change a thing Urs. I too, purchased Z2 in the beta stage. It's proved to be an incredible value. 8)

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zebra goes on sale on rare occasions in the marketplace

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dreamkeeper wrote:Apropos "early adopters": how's that UHBIK X coming along? :P
If we include stuff that X doesn't do but the DAW does just fine, it's almost complete (and this way I can throw in a 3rd party plug anywhere) :P :P :P. And Uhbik-G and Zebrify were free ...

All snark aside, so many companies charge for bug fixes, tweaks to something done poorly, or new functionality done poorly that needs tweaks (or to be destroyed...) - this is what slaps my face. Never got that from u-he, however that relates to the no-sales policy.

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dalor wrote:
dreamkeeper wrote:How a special sale could be a "slap in the face" of existing customers, I've never understood and probably never will.
So your jaw wouldn't drop if you bought Waves Mercury for $4999 when you could have got it for $2999 (even though its 24 months later after you bought it)?
The answer should be in the 2nd paragraph of my post, no?

But to help you out: IF I had ever the funds to pay such a ridiculous price, I certainly wouldn't have to worry about what happens later. Software prices are kinda artificial anyway... there's (next to) no per-piece cost, and once the development costs are recouped, I expect prices dropping considerably.

That's just common business practise - and I'm not really a friend of capitalism or completely free markets (which won't work anyway...).
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xh3rv wrote:
dreamkeeper wrote:Apropos "early adopters": how's that UHBIK X coming along? :P
If we include stuff that X doesn't do but the DAW does just fine, it's almost complete (and this way I can throw in a 3rd party plug anywhere) :P :P :P. And Uhbik-G and Zebrify were free ...
Well, that doesn't change the fact that X was promised, AND it played a big role in my decision to buy Uhbik. :shrug:
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dreamkeeper wrote:
xh3rv wrote:
dreamkeeper wrote:Apropos "early adopters": how's that UHBIK X coming along? :P
If we include stuff that X doesn't do but the DAW does just fine, it's almost complete (and this way I can throw in a 3rd party plug anywhere) :P :P :P. And Uhbik-G and Zebrify were free ...
Well, that doesn't change the fact that X was promised, AND it played a big role in my decision to buy Uhbik. :shrug:
Then sell Uhbik if you are unhappy... Probably better if Urs never publicly talked about his roadmap, but then it is really nice to have some idea of what to expect so I would rather hear about what is coming with the understanding that some things might not happen. And in this case some technical hurdles showed up that were not expected. It was not like it was blown off for no reason. Shit happens sometimes so quit whining and get over it already. Urs has been quite productive over the past few years... Uhbik, ACE, Bazille Alpha (which is quite useable), Tyrell for free, significant Zebra updates and now Diva.

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dreamkeeper wrote:
xh3rv wrote:
dreamkeeper wrote:Apropos "early adopters": how's that UHBIK X coming along? :P
If we include stuff that X doesn't do but the DAW does just fine, it's almost complete (and this way I can throw in a 3rd party plug anywhere) :P :P :P. And Uhbik-G and Zebrify were free ...
Well, that doesn't change the fact that X was promised, AND it played a big role in my decision to buy Uhbik. :shrug:
Diva's fx section is another milestone towards it, as the effects share the same resources.

We have plans for a resource saving gui extension next year which then might make Uhbik-X possible.

But as I stated somewhere else, as it stands now, Uhbik-X would not be fun to use - it would literally open 36 plugins per instance, and even more so with the future plugins we might add. Many people won't be able to open more than a single instance on their computers, if any at all.

It was dumb of me to make any promises (despite saying "if I'll ever get there"), I couldn't keep them, I regret that and I sincerely apologise.

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pdxindy wrote:Shit happens sometimes so quit whining and get over it already.
Wow! Dunno how you come to conclusion that I was whining... that's not my style, ya know? Just going to show that things are not as black&white as some make it out to be.
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Urs wrote:
dreamkeeper wrote:
xh3rv wrote:
dreamkeeper wrote:Apropos "early adopters": how's that UHBIK X coming along? :P
If we include stuff that X doesn't do but the DAW does just fine, it's almost complete (and this way I can throw in a 3rd party plug anywhere) :P :P :P. And Uhbik-G and Zebrify were free ...
Well, that doesn't change the fact that X was promised, AND it played a big role in my decision to buy Uhbik. :shrug:
Diva's fx section is another milestone towards it, as the effects share the same resources.

We have plans for a resource saving gui extension next year which then might make Uhbik-X possible.

But as I stated somewhere else, as it stands now, Uhbik-X would not be fun to use - it would literally open 36 plugins per instance, and even more so with the future plugins we might add. Many people won't be able to open more than a single instance on their computers, if any at all.

It was dumb of me to make any promises (despite saying "if I'll ever get there"), I couldn't keep them, I regret that and I sincerely apologise.
Accepted and thanks for the info. 8)

...and now get busy with that Berlin Monst... err Modular. :P
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osiris wrote:Maybe a stupid question, but was just wondering. Or an upgrade from Zebralette. Probably even stupider considering it's free. I never play with Zebra because I know I'll want it, but right now it's costs about my car payment amount.
hehe, yes I hoped that there will be Zebra sale during Black Friday too :) Why ? because it's the only U-He product which my computer can handle :) (im not happy when one channel takes around 30 % of my cpu)


By the way, I was always wondering why there can't be some kind of "draft / render" mode (for example in latest DIVA) just like in Z3ta for example. So I could for example:
- create preset with satisfying sound (full quality)
- set draft mode (so it'll be played with lower quality but also much less cpu consumption)
- render track (full "render" quality)

I know that there is a freeze option in DAW but due to all kind of routings, most of time I just can't freeze channel. Actually, all you need is just sidechain compressor and you can't freeze.


about sale. looks like there will be always one side not fully satisfied ;) It works just both ways. Zebra was my first choice but I couldnt afford it so I decided to improve my "digital area" arsenal and picked bright sounding NI Massive. its just ... life ;)

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D N A wrote: By the way, I was always wondering why there can't be some kind of "draft / render" mode (for example in latest DIVA) just like in Z3ta for example. So I could for example:
- create preset with satisfying sound (full quality)
- set draft mode (so it'll be played with lower quality but also much less cpu consumption)
- render track (full "render" quality)

I'd like to see that in Zebra... also, would like to see a 'divine' option too...

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Urs, could it be possible for DIVA to use GPU for calculating?

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toitoi wrote:Urs, could it be possible for DIVA to use GPU for calculating?
Maybe, but we would need to introduce severe latency.

We've planned to check this out.

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