John Dahlback using cracked synths - is Ace in there?

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djanthonyw wrote:The main point is that this guy is someone that a lot of other people probably look(ed) up too, he is supposed to be setting a good example and he set a bad one.
Absolutely right, and that's the thing one should criticize. A guy in his position just can't be viewed in a video using warez, and his reputation will surely take some scars, at least from people into music producing.

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chk071 wrote:
djanthonyw wrote:The main point is that this guy is someone that a lot of other people probably look(ed) up too, he is supposed to be setting a good example and he set a bad one.
Absolutely right, and that's the thing one should criticize. A guy in his position just can't be viewed in a video using warez, and his reputation will surely take some scars, at least from people into music producing.
[In my opinion]

He provides complete validation for warez crackers and users.

He's now become the poster boy for warez.

The subtext is that the "secret sauce" of success is use warez now pay later.

Though loss of patch settings is mentioned as one the rationalisations for being a naughty boy, the elephant in the room is the ease of installing cracks.

[/In my opinion]

I know why proctection mechanisms are used but those warez aholes have made software intallation a complete misery.

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Hey guys.
Fun topic!
Anyway, just wanted to let everyone know that I DO have the license for LennarDigital Sylenth obviously. But just like everyone else (I suppose), I want to try vst plugins out before I buy them, in case it's ****. And when it comes to Sylenth, I bought the license straight after. Reason why I didn't uninstall the previous version for the registered one is because I don't know if my saved presets would stay or be deleted as well.

Anyway, good discussion. I can't speak for Avicii, but everything I use has a license. To be a producer and expect people to pay for my music and NOT pay for my gear would obviously be ****ed up.

Anyway, hope everyone liked the video. The track in the video will never be released due to lack of quality in my opinion. Just wanted to show people my working technique.

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srcodling wrote:I have never been so surprised than when I first bought Zebra, asked a question, and had Urs answer it within minutes on this forum. Right away there is the human connection, I feel valued as a person, and so I want to support Urs in this whole process (and have bought every u-he product since, other than a few soundbanks).

So even bands that I liked ages ago, today I feel no connection with even if they still release albums. And for something like Sylenth, it's a great product, but there's zero communication and so there's no connection.
Wow, you know, now that you mention it, I can look at my software purchases and see that I strongly favor products by people I've interacted with.
TechnoSlave wrote:...the elephant in the room is the ease of installing cracks.

[/In my opinion]

I know why proctection mechanisms are used but those warez aholes have made software intallation a complete misery.


And then there's this, all but maybe 3 products I own have copy protection that I don't consider obnoxious or obtrusive. Of those that do, I haven't used any of them in almost 2 years. Observing that trend, I'm not inclined to purchase more software that I know will sit unused.
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xybre wrote:
srcodling wrote:I have never been so surprised than when I first bought Zebra, asked a question, and had Urs answer it within minutes on this forum. Right away there is the human connection, I feel valued as a person, and so I want to support Urs in this whole process (and have bought every u-he product since, other than a few soundbanks).

So even bands that I liked ages ago, today I feel no connection with even if they still release albums. And for something like Sylenth, it's a great product, but there's zero communication and so there's no connection.
Wow, you know, now that you mention it, I can look at my software purchases and see that I strongly favor products by people I've interacted with.
This.

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Sendy wrote:they make shallow music that's apparently the hottest thing since sliced (hot) bread but in a week will be completely forgotten about.
please explain the longevity of 'boogie oogie oogie'

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chk071 wrote:...surely once in their life have used cracked software/downloaded music illegally or got some downloaded movies or stuff from friends etc.
...but if you're on a future music video!!!... i just can't figure how Future Music would allow that stuff, if it's really that obvious.

I personally get warm shorts when I think of the awesome toys being coded by my fellow audio geeks. I even buy shit that I never use, just so I know that they have a better chance to EAT and keep coding ;)

I could understand someone who owns a particular software using a cracked version because of a performance issue (ie dongle calls using up CPU cycles or something), but I'm not sure if that would be a valid situation anymore with quad core CPUs and the like...

I'm very glad that KVR exists, especially the marketplace. I think that has an impact on the use of cracked software... i would guess anyways... I've met some awesome people/producers through the marketplace too :)

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Urs wrote:
DILF wrote:
zvenx wrote:I also think Urs subtle out of tune and other anti crack protection methods are very effective.
I still remember people posting to complain about GUI problems
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Sooner or later Computer Music/Future Music needs to address this issue. Time and time again in their magazines I read about the horrible evils of warez, and yet. It just seems that some people let the fame monster get to their heads and think they are above the law.

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sqigls wrote:I could understand someone who owns a particular software using a cracked version because of a performance issue (ie dongle calls using up CPU cycles or something), but I'm not sure if that would be a valid situation anymore with quad core CPUs and the like...
That's a non issue. How many calls do you think the mouse does every second and you don't notice your computer slowing down when using the mouse do you ?

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jupiter8 wrote:
sqigls wrote:I could understand someone who owns a particular software using a cracked version because of a performance issue (ie dongle calls using up CPU cycles or something), but I'm not sure if that would be a valid situation anymore with quad core CPUs and the like...
That's a non issue. How many calls do you think the mouse does every second and you don't notice your computer slowing down when using the mouse do you ?
More likely calls to CyberCrime HQ with the warez user's banking details or running a porn mail server on their machine.

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The point for me is that we supposedly have standards against using cracked warez...just like we also have standards supporting copyright. If someone with the fame he has is actually seen using cracked warez on his videos then he has legitimized using cracked warez for all the warez kiddies out there.

I am sick and tired of this type of class based relativism...it is wrong for the rest of us..it is also wrong for the 'professional'.... :x
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I think that Future Music is the one to blame. It's like publishing an interview to a sportsman while he's using dope and at the same time explaining to kids how to reach the podium.

The artist is in fault but the editor is responsible of what he publish. If they didn't noticed the cracked synths however they should apologize, at least with the developers involved. :shrug:

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Does my warez look big in this?

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chk071 wrote:A guy in his position just can't be viewed in a video using warez, and his reputation will surely take some scars, at least from people into music producing.
Funny thing is, even more people will know him now due to these discussions, more people will listen to his music, recognize his name and will buy his stuff. Did such stuff ever hurt someone (I mean, really?)?

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