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janamdo wrote:Routing in Mulab
I assume you mean the MuSynth, right?
should be handier if there is a small routing diagrams on the module to consult
If you want graphical paths, then you can use the modular system.
The MuSynth is intended as a powerful synth but hiding the modular world.
I think the MuSynth is a very classical synth.
Tip: The routing buttons on the MuSynth give tooltips with the full names.

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Thanks Nielzie and Janamdo!


Jo it appears you were partly right. Recording automation from a MuSampler effect slot does not result in a part. However, doing a 'plus 1' on the tracks and then recording automation, results in a dysfunctional automation part.

session folder:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/5kvv4n


separate project and sample files:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/mo97zp
http://www.sendspace.com/file/uz8ou0

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Bonteburg wrote:Jo it appears you were partly right. Recording automation from a MuSampler effect slot does not result in a part. However, doing a 'plus 1' on the tracks and then recording automation, results in a dysfunctional automation part.
session folder:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/5kvv4n
separate project and sample files:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/mo97zp
http://www.sendspace.com/file/uz8ou0
Thanks for the session, that helped a lot!
It revealed a bug, fixed in the next version.

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Element 3:

I managed to stick a Rock Organ into the Mux Element and assign a Rock Organ Parameter to one of the Mux parameters. Parameter 1 is now called 'Rotary Amount'.

I could assign a knob of my keyboard to that Parameter but it won't turn the knob on the screen.

Also, the knob doesn't appear in the knob section of Element 3 but only as a pop up when I click 'edit'.

Tweaking the knob with my mouse during Record fails to create an automation part.

The same thing seems to be happening with Cheeze Machine (VSTi) and GM Drumset (Mutools).

Note events aren't affected.



MuSampler:

Ohh OK. Apparently, when you have 'SP' and 'F1'(..2, 3) turned on in the master section, 'SP' kind of overrides the Filter signal creating a '50 per cent wet' effect. Turning SP off and your Filter on gives a standard lowpass behavior.
:)

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Bonteburg wrote:Element 3:

I managed to stick a Rock Organ into the Mux Element and assign a Rock Organ Parameter to one of the Mux parameters. Parameter 1 is now called 'Rotary Amount'.
To make sure i understand you well: you're talking about inserting a rock organ patch in E3 of a MuPad or in MuDrum pad, right? If yes, wow, you're learning fast! That's the most complex part of the MuDrum.
I could assign a knob of my keyboard to that Parameter but it won't turn the knob on the screen.
I think that will be solved in the next version, it's the same bug as why that specific automation didn't work.
Also, the knob doesn't appear in the knob section of Element 3 but only as a pop up when I click 'edit'.

Tweaking the knob with my mouse during Record fails to create an automation part.

The same thing seems to be happening with Cheeze Machine (VSTi) and GM Drumset (Mutools).

Note events aren't affected.
Lets please all re-evaluate when M4.0.73 is there, in approx half an hour ;)
MuSampler:

Ohh OK. Apparently, when you have 'SP' and 'F1'(..2, 3) turned on in the master section, 'SP' kind of overrides the Filter signal creating a '50 per cent wet' effect. Turning SP off and your Filter on gives a standard lowpass behavior.
:)
When SP is on in Filter 1 it means filter 1 receives from the sampler.
When SP is on in the Amplifier it means the Amplifier receives from the sampler. When F1 is on in Filter 2 it means filter 2 receives from filter 1. Etc. By combining those routings you can make parrallel filters and serial filters etc.

So if you just want a straight sample player without filters:

Switch off the 2 oscs + 3 filters to spare cpu.
Switch off all input buttons on the amplifier, except for SP, which must be on of course.

Hope this helps.

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New M4.0.73 packages for Windows & OSX in http://www.mutools.com/mulab/cedar

Changes:

* Improved Focussed Module Panel.
* Finetuned main menu panel. Thanks Calum!
* Finetuned envelope context menu.
* Composer: Pasting envelope parts using a shortcut key didn't work when an envelope part was selected.
* Dropping a parameter on the + Track button now creates a new track for that specific parameter.
* Dropping a parameter on a track now immediately updates track and part names where relevant.
* VST editor -> "Drag Last Tweaked Parameter" didn't always work.
* Finetuned coloring of racks.
* Finetuned a bunch of drum samples, improved sound quality.
* OSX version: On startup there was a unintended browser window opened for choosing a session.
* OSX: Choosing a new part type didn't work.
* Couldn't record parameters from modules in the MuSampla / MuPad slots.
* Automation to modules in the MuSampla / MuPad slots didn't work.
* Switching between session windows now also shifts the MIDI focus.
* OSX: Fixed some windowing issue.

Curious for your feedback.

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mutools wrote:
Bonteburg wrote:Element 3:

I managed to stick a Rock Organ into the Mux Element and assign a Rock Organ Parameter to one of the Mux parameters. Parameter 1 is now called 'Rotary Amount'.
To make sure i understand you well: you're talking about inserting a rock organ patch in E3 of a MuPad or in MuDrum pad, right? If yes, wow, you're learning fast! That's the most complex part of the MuDrum.
err, Thanks for the compliment. :D

Yeah, I mean the clean-slate Mux patch hiding under the hood of „Element 3".

Just discovering Mupad - because of your post - which is much cooler because it gives you a whole keyboard range instead of one note (MuDrum).

I even got Cheeze Machine to play Element 2, ie one of the "sample preferred" modules by inserting it into one of the effect slots.

Very exciting stuff.

Can't start on testing the new version tonight but I shall do so on the morrow.

:)

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The coloring for the whole racks is too much for me, sufficient is only to get the trackheader colored the rest of the rack stays grey (uncolored)

So a focussed track is only visible as a colored rackheader and the other racks are not colored if there is no sequenze for that track.
So the condition for a rackheader coloring is that there is focus on a track
There is than only one colered rackheader visible than
Only a focussed track has a color.
It is a reminder that the is user working on this focussed track


Further the keyboard at the the top is not in the right proportions..it makes that mulab looks primitive and not sophisticated composing tool.
Also handy to add a "hold "function to the keyboard for the keys han you can listen to chords and for a arpeggiator.

Make this sense?
Last edited by janamdo on Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:13 am, edited 1 time in total.

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janamdo wrote:Further the keyboard at the the top is not in the right proportions..it makes that mulab looks primitive and not sophisticated composing tool.
Why isn't it in the right proportions for you?
Can you please post a screenshot so i can see what you mean.
Thanks.

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janamdo wrote:Further the keyboard at the the top is not in the right proportions..it makes that mulab looks primitive and not sophisticated composing tool.
Also handy to add a "hold "function to the keyboard for the keys han you can listen to chords and for a arpeggiator.
You can size the keyboard by zooming it, well you know what I mean...
ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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Also, you can play chords using the function keys (by default).

I really quite like the way the window's width gets fully utilised. The old way with dead space between the controls looked far less "finished".

Oh - performance issues: having two (or more) sessions just open seems to make a huge difference when playing any one of them. If I make sure I've only one session open, things are pretty much fine, though.

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liquidsound wrote:You can size the keyboard by zooming it, well you know what I mean...
O, yes..that is it zooming..., thanks
By default opening it seems too big the keyboard?

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pljones wrote:Also, you can play chords using the function keys (by default).
you mean F1 ..F12 on my computer keyboard?
To play chords could be informative.

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pljones wrote:performance issues: having two (or more) sessions just open seems to make a huge difference when playing any one of them. If I make sure I've only one session open, things are pretty much fine, though.
That's because all sessions are fully active in parrallel.
If you want you can mute a session via right-click on the play button -> "Switch OFF".

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janamdo wrote:By default opening it seems too big the keyboard?
What monitor resolution are you working on?

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