Good morning. After a few months, I now have enough working knowledge of my Receptor to start eliminating (i.e. selling on eBay) my hardware synths. Oh yeah!
So I am now quite interested in understanding how to backup my Receptor. I know there are single and multi patch banks but what about the sounds I edit directly within a plugin but don't save as a Receptor patch?
I need to be in a position to make a backup of everything on my Receptor so if I lost the hard drive, I could just install a new one and copy everything back over.
I need to know which directories I should backup and since I can't write to certain directories, if I lost the entire hard drive, how do I get the operating system and Receptor specific items back onto the new drive?
I have to assume anyone using Receptor as their main device has got similar concerns. After all, Receptor is a PC and we know that hard drive failure is a matter of when and not if.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Todd
How do I properly (and completely) backup my Receptor?
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- KVRist
- 44 posts since 5 Jun, 2006
Hi Todd,
I've got the same question about the backup. I've made a search of "backup" and I've only find your post
If we use a backup program like Norton Ghost, will the Receptor work after we restore the backup?
The Network connection called "Hard Drive", is the root of the Hard Disk, or is there a section of the hard disk where we have no access and therefore no option to backup?
Cheers!
I've got the same question about the backup. I've made a search of "backup" and I've only find your post
If we use a backup program like Norton Ghost, will the Receptor work after we restore the backup?
The Network connection called "Hard Drive", is the root of the Hard Disk, or is there a section of the hard disk where we have no access and therefore no option to backup?
Cheers!
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 64 posts since 31 Dec, 2006 from California
I initially posted this question on KVR but received no response. So, I also posted the question at Plugorama. Muse did get back to me and since I have had a few KVR'ers ask me if I had received anything on this post, I thought it would be helpful to post Muse's response here. Rick Escobar at Muse was kind enough to give me some feedback on this process. I hope that everyone finds it useful. This first post is Rick's response to my initial question, then there are a few follow-ups after that:
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Todd,
As a backup copy over only your user Banks and Patches from the Receptor hard drive.
Theses are located in Banks and Patches on the Receptor hard drive. Copy your user banks and patches from the Multi Directory, Singles Directory. NOTE: Each plugin manufacture is also listed here, you would copy user patches from each plugin you have created patches for.
Currently we do not have a back-up utility for the remainder of the hard drive contents. If the hard drive failed you would need to contact us so we could create you a new one. I realize this is big issue, we are working on a solution for the 2.0 Receptor OS.
Rick
Rick Escobar
(Plugorama Support)
Tuesday
April 3, 2007
01:45 PM I have made a note to notify you when an update is available.
Rick
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TODD GREENBAUM
(toddg7777)
Tuesday
April 3, 2007
02:58 PM
Rick, thanks for the follow up. Since I don't completely understand how Receptor stores things, here is a more detailed question on this subject.
There are times that I simply edit a plug-in directly but don't save the patch in the plug. I save the single or multi using the Receptor software. As I found out, Receptor must save every parameter in the plug as part of the single or multi because I don't have to save a patch in a plug to recall the proper settings.
Does this mean that when I backup the Singles and Multis in Receptor that this includes every single setting in every single plugin included in the Receptor patches? If so, that's great and it seems that it must - but I'd like to know for sure.
Thanks.
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Rick Escobar
(Plugorama Support)
Tuesday
April 3, 2007
03:51 PM Todd,
It sounds like you understand backing up Multis and Singles so I'll skip that part. Each plugin also has it's own set of Receptor Banks and Patches. I would backup all those that you have created. Here's an example: Load 4Front Piano, select the SOURCE Save/File button, create a bank called 4Front Bank Test then save a patch called 4Front Patch test. Now open the Receptor hard drive to Banks and Patches > 4Front. Notice is now a directory called 4Front Bank Test inside of that directory is 4Front Patch Test.
You should also backup any plugin SOURCE and FX user banks and patches you had created. This is seperate from Multis and Singles.
Rick
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Todd,
As a backup copy over only your user Banks and Patches from the Receptor hard drive.
Theses are located in Banks and Patches on the Receptor hard drive. Copy your user banks and patches from the Multi Directory, Singles Directory. NOTE: Each plugin manufacture is also listed here, you would copy user patches from each plugin you have created patches for.
Currently we do not have a back-up utility for the remainder of the hard drive contents. If the hard drive failed you would need to contact us so we could create you a new one. I realize this is big issue, we are working on a solution for the 2.0 Receptor OS.
Rick
Rick Escobar
(Plugorama Support)
Tuesday
April 3, 2007
01:45 PM I have made a note to notify you when an update is available.
Rick
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TODD GREENBAUM
(toddg7777)
Tuesday
April 3, 2007
02:58 PM
Rick, thanks for the follow up. Since I don't completely understand how Receptor stores things, here is a more detailed question on this subject.
There are times that I simply edit a plug-in directly but don't save the patch in the plug. I save the single or multi using the Receptor software. As I found out, Receptor must save every parameter in the plug as part of the single or multi because I don't have to save a patch in a plug to recall the proper settings.
Does this mean that when I backup the Singles and Multis in Receptor that this includes every single setting in every single plugin included in the Receptor patches? If so, that's great and it seems that it must - but I'd like to know for sure.
Thanks.
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Rick Escobar
(Plugorama Support)
Tuesday
April 3, 2007
03:51 PM Todd,
It sounds like you understand backing up Multis and Singles so I'll skip that part. Each plugin also has it's own set of Receptor Banks and Patches. I would backup all those that you have created. Here's an example: Load 4Front Piano, select the SOURCE Save/File button, create a bank called 4Front Bank Test then save a patch called 4Front Patch test. Now open the Receptor hard drive to Banks and Patches > 4Front. Notice is now a directory called 4Front Bank Test inside of that directory is 4Front Patch Test.
You should also backup any plugin SOURCE and FX user banks and patches you had created. This is seperate from Multis and Singles.
Rick
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- KVRist
- 31 posts since 13 Aug, 2008 from Sydney, Australia
Hi Sorry to bump an old thread. I have some back up multi's and I need one of them. When I try to copy it back to the receptor, it says I don't have permission? Is there something I'm not seeing? I have a bank for this particular band at that's where I'm trying to drop it.
It a receptor 1, rev C, latest OS.
and on a Macbook w/OSX 10.6
Damien
It a receptor 1, rev C, latest OS.
and on a Macbook w/OSX 10.6
Damien
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- KVRian
- 576 posts since 5 May, 2005 from Canada
Usually the 'permission' message is associated with a particular plug-in.
I don't recall which ones, but I'm thinking Kontact, for example.
Regardless, even one plug-in dishing-out that message will stop the entire process.
I'd ask Muse, via a Help Desk Ticket.
Good luck, and please post the reason.
I don't recall which ones, but I'm thinking Kontact, for example.
Regardless, even one plug-in dishing-out that message will stop the entire process.
I'd ask Muse, via a Help Desk Ticket.
Good luck, and please post the reason.
JV
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- KVRer
- 21 posts since 12 Jan, 2011 from IT
I simply bought an USB HDD tray and a Hard Disk identical to the one installed in the Receptor.
I then rebooted my receptor with a CloneZilla USB Stick plugged in and, voilà!
From the graphical GUI you are able to perfectly clone your internal HDD to an external one.
The only odd to this is that it takes quite a long time (depending on the size of your HD).
Bye
I then rebooted my receptor with a CloneZilla USB Stick plugged in and, voilà!
From the graphical GUI you are able to perfectly clone your internal HDD to an external one.
The only odd to this is that it takes quite a long time (depending on the size of your HD).
Bye
toddg7777 wrote:Good morning. After a few months, I now have enough working knowledge of my Receptor to start eliminating (i.e. selling on eBay) my hardware synths. Oh yeah!
So I am now quite interested in understanding how to backup my Receptor. I know there are single and multi patch banks but what about the sounds I edit directly within a plugin but don't save as a Receptor patch?
I need to be in a position to make a backup of everything on my Receptor so if I lost the hard drive, I could just install a new one and copy everything back
over.
I need to know which directories I should backup and since I can't write to certain directories, if I lost the entire hard drive, how do I get the operating system and Receptor specific items back onto the new drive?
I have to assume anyone using Receptor as their main device has got similar concerns. After all, Receptor is a PC and we know that hard drive failure is a matter of when and not if.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Todd
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- KVRist
- 68 posts since 25 Apr, 2009
Could you provide more explicit steps? How does one get a clonezilla USB stick? How do you make the receptor boot from a USB device rather than the hard drive? Is it just automatic? Can the external drive be larger than the one inside the receptor?
This is incredibly useful info.
This is incredibly useful info.
dustnic wrote:I simply bought an USB HDD tray and a Hard Disk identical to the one installed in the Receptor.
I then rebooted my receptor with a CloneZilla USB Stick plugged in and, voilà!
From the graphical GUI you are able to perfectly clone your internal HDD to an external one.
The only odd to this is that it takes quite a long time (depending on the size of your HD).
Bye
David Jameson
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- KVRer
- 21 posts since 12 Jan, 2011 from IT
All the infos you should need to get a bootable USB clonezilla stick can be found on http://clonezilla.org/.
Once plugged in (you'll need an external VGA display with usb keyboard and mouse) your receptor will automatically boot the USB drive first.
The external drive should be at least the capacity of the internal one.
Once booted with the clonezilla OS, you should simply follow the on-screen instructions to clone your internal HDD. Be careful not to clone the external one into the internal!!
Whenever needed you'll simply open the Receptor chassis, replace the HDD et voilà! Your Receptor will be live again with a perfect clone of your original HDD.
Once plugged in (you'll need an external VGA display with usb keyboard and mouse) your receptor will automatically boot the USB drive first.
The external drive should be at least the capacity of the internal one.
Once booted with the clonezilla OS, you should simply follow the on-screen instructions to clone your internal HDD. Be careful not to clone the external one into the internal!!
Whenever needed you'll simply open the Receptor chassis, replace the HDD et voilà! Your Receptor will be live again with a perfect clone of your original HDD.
dhjdhj wrote:Could you provide more explicit steps? How does one get a clonezilla USB stick? How do you make the receptor boot from a USB device rather than the hard drive? Is it just automatic? Can the external drive be larger than the one inside the receptor?
This is incredibly useful info.
dustnic wrote:I simply bought an USB HDD tray and a Hard Disk identical to the one installed in the Receptor.
I then rebooted my receptor with a CloneZilla USB Stick plugged in and, voilà!
From the graphical GUI you are able to perfectly clone your internal HDD to an external one.
The only odd to this is that it takes quite a long time (depending on the size of your HD).
Bye
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- KVRist
- 99 posts since 12 Oct, 2010
So what kind of drive do you use as the target for the backup? Presumably you're connecting it to the Receptor externally via USB... but then you later install it into the Receptor when needed, as a SATA drive? Are you using some kind of USB-SATA adaptor?dustnic wrote:All the infos you should need to get a bootable USB clonezilla stick can be found on http://clonezilla.org/.
Once plugged in (you'll need an external VGA display with usb keyboard and mouse) your receptor will automatically boot the USB drive first.
The external drive should be at least the capacity of the internal one.
Once booted with the clonezilla OS, you should simply follow the on-screen instructions to clone your internal HDD. Be careful not to clone the external one into the internal!!
Whenever needed you'll simply open the Receptor chassis, replace the HDD et voilà! Your Receptor will be live again with a perfect clone of your original HDD.
Spherical
Kurzweil PC3x, Muse Receptor, Nord G2 Modular, Mellotron M400, Nord Electro, Korg Triton, Yamaha Motif Rack ES, Roland D50, Korg Prophecy, Korg MS10, Logan String Synth
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- KVRer
- 21 posts since 12 Jan, 2011 from IT
Of course! I have an external USB to SATA adapter (like this one http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/product ... e-dock.jpg).
Once needed I open the chassis of my receptor and replace the existing disk with the external one (which is a working backup).
Once needed I open the chassis of my receptor and replace the existing disk with the external one (which is a working backup).
ndurant wrote:So what kind of drive do you use as the target for the backup? Presumably you're connecting it to the Receptor externally via USB... but then you later install it into the Receptor when needed, as a SATA drive? Are you using some kind of USB-SATA adaptor?dustnic wrote:All the infos you should need to get a bootable USB clonezilla stick can be found on http://clonezilla.org/.
Once plugged in (you'll need an external VGA display with usb keyboard and mouse) your receptor will automatically boot the USB drive first.
The external drive should be at least the capacity of the internal one.
Once booted with the clonezilla OS, you should simply follow the on-screen instructions to clone your internal HDD. Be careful not to clone the external one into the internal!!
Whenever needed you'll simply open the Receptor chassis, replace the HDD et voilà! Your Receptor will be live again with a perfect clone of your original HDD.
Spherical