New algorithmic reverb from SKnote - "Stagespace" - Available NOW - New presets
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- KVRAF
- 2432 posts since 15 Jul, 2004 from Italy
We needed a classical reverb to complete the range.
Stagespace is an algorithmic reverb with some special twists and features.
It doesn't use randomization in its networks, just sounds smooth.
It was designed to get various kinds of effects, from rooms to huge spaces.
It completes the range: Verbtone (plate algorithmic), Necklace (spring algorithmic), and coming soon Stagespace.
This is a simple comparison between the glassy Verbtone and Stagespace. No EQ, no processing. These are mp3, better quality demos coming soon.
Dry
Verbtone
Stagespace
(a big thank you to Jerry Mateo for the dry recording and the Verbtone demo!)
Now available on www.sknote.it
Stagespace is an algorithmic reverb with some special twists and features.
It doesn't use randomization in its networks, just sounds smooth.
It was designed to get various kinds of effects, from rooms to huge spaces.
It completes the range: Verbtone (plate algorithmic), Necklace (spring algorithmic), and coming soon Stagespace.
This is a simple comparison between the glassy Verbtone and Stagespace. No EQ, no processing. These are mp3, better quality demos coming soon.
Dry
Verbtone
Stagespace
(a big thank you to Jerry Mateo for the dry recording and the Verbtone demo!)
Now available on www.sknote.it
Last edited by quintosardo on Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:22 pm, edited 9 times in total.
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- KVRian
- 676 posts since 24 May, 2011 from los angeles
my friend listend to soundstage one and loved it man sounds really big but still clean. its way diferent than most other reverbs
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2432 posts since 15 Jul, 2004 from Italy
This is the GUI of Stagespace. Some more audio soon...

A preview of the parameters:
- Low and high smooth filters
- Color (general reverb character)
- Hi frequency dampening control
- Predelay, with optional feedback for special delay/verb settings
- Reverb envelope, from normal/exponential to full with steep fadeout
- Density fading in and general reverb density
- Detuning (this isn't chorus), with some weird feedback modes (the guitar example above use this one for a depth effect)
- Stereo spread (widening)
- Multimode modulation (pitch, phase, amplitude,pan)
- Stereo width control
Includes several algorithms (Hall and Delay in this version) and several stereo modes (split stereo, stereo->mono->stereo, true stereo, follow-the-source).
We needed a classical delay based reverb...

A preview of the parameters:
- Low and high smooth filters
- Color (general reverb character)
- Hi frequency dampening control
- Predelay, with optional feedback for special delay/verb settings
- Reverb envelope, from normal/exponential to full with steep fadeout
- Density fading in and general reverb density
- Detuning (this isn't chorus), with some weird feedback modes (the guitar example above use this one for a depth effect)
- Stereo spread (widening)
- Multimode modulation (pitch, phase, amplitude,pan)
- Stereo width control
Includes several algorithms (Hall and Delay in this version) and several stereo modes (split stereo, stereo->mono->stereo, true stereo, follow-the-source).
We needed a classical delay based reverb...
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- KVRian
- 676 posts since 24 May, 2011 from los angeles
i like the way it looks cant wait to try it out
let me know about the beta
let me know about the beta
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2432 posts since 15 Jul, 2004 from Italy
New audio demos:
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Here is a ultra-clean test on classical guitar (thanks Jerry M!)
Guitar_dry
Guitar_Stagespace
I really love this sample, it's real with some breathing, too
Quite some space by Stagespace...
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A mix with quite some ambients (thanks to Rich Prewett!):
Skipping_Away_Stagespace
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A completely different perspective:
An orchestral outro, five instances of Stagespace, with variations of the "Epic" preset
Without End outro - Stagespace
(thanks to Rich Prewett!)
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Instrumental song: drums, bass, guitars, wah solo
Planetary Thinking - Stagespace
Delays and reverbs replaced by Stagespace (7 instances).
(Thanks Rich!)
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A very nice demo by Patrick Haupt (thanks!)
This is the instrument: Ten strings guitar by Martin Bretscher
Dry sample (Suite Espanola)
Through Stagespace
(stereo track, split stereo mode, long reverb, no envelope, a bit of detuning, a bit of pre-delay, a bit of widener)

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Here is a ultra-clean test on classical guitar (thanks Jerry M!)
Guitar_dry
Guitar_Stagespace
I really love this sample, it's real with some breathing, too
Quite some space by Stagespace...
---------------
A mix with quite some ambients (thanks to Rich Prewett!):
Skipping_Away_Stagespace
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A completely different perspective:
An orchestral outro, five instances of Stagespace, with variations of the "Epic" preset
Without End outro - Stagespace
(thanks to Rich Prewett!)
---------------
Instrumental song: drums, bass, guitars, wah solo
Planetary Thinking - Stagespace
Delays and reverbs replaced by Stagespace (7 instances).
(Thanks Rich!)
---------------
A very nice demo by Patrick Haupt (thanks!)
This is the instrument: Ten strings guitar by Martin Bretscher
Dry sample (Suite Espanola)
Through Stagespace
(stereo track, split stereo mode, long reverb, no envelope, a bit of detuning, a bit of pre-delay, a bit of widener)

Last edited by quintosardo on Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:55 am, edited 2 times in total.
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- KVRian
- 676 posts since 24 May, 2011 from los angeles
all really nice demos 
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2432 posts since 15 Jul, 2004 from Italy
A very nice recording of a guitar:
Ricardo - Yesterday - dry
Ricardo - Yesterday - Stagespace
Recording and processing by Jerry Mateo
Performing Ricardo Sanchez. If anybody is interested in a collaboration, contact him here: Facebook - Ricardo Sanchez
Ricardo - Yesterday - dry
Ricardo - Yesterday - Stagespace
Recording and processing by Jerry Mateo
Performing Ricardo Sanchez. If anybody is interested in a collaboration, contact him here: Facebook - Ricardo Sanchez
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 10 Sep, 2003 from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden
It really feels like im sitting on second row watching him play 
I can see the old oiled wooden floor and the red curtains. Amazing!
I can see the old oiled wooden floor and the red curtains. Amazing!
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2432 posts since 15 Jul, 2004 from Italy
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- KVRAF
- 1888 posts since 13 Aug, 2011 from Berlin
With these examples I never got the feeling of the whole room. When I close my eyes it always feels as if there is some kind of room but I never can really visualize it. It's always dark there and I see a bright light shining onto the artist. Is that intentional? I would like to get a clear feeling of the room and want to see the room when I listen. Not always but for certain things that is a necessary thing for me.
I hope that this is clear? I want to give an example. I experienced that in 1990 on the Frankfurt Musikmesse. These Messe halls are acoustically suboptimal, for sure. I was at the TC Electronic booth and grabbed a pair of headphones to check out some reverb thing they were showing. I was scared instantly and pulled those phones of my head and looked around! The room simulation was soooo good that I was shocked instantly. This quality of room simulation is one of the benchmarks now for me. Now if something tells me "Hey, this is not just reverb but a room!" I want to see and feel the room. At least when I close my eyes.
I hope that this is clear? I want to give an example. I experienced that in 1990 on the Frankfurt Musikmesse. These Messe halls are acoustically suboptimal, for sure. I was at the TC Electronic booth and grabbed a pair of headphones to check out some reverb thing they were showing. I was scared instantly and pulled those phones of my head and looked around! The room simulation was soooo good that I was shocked instantly. This quality of room simulation is one of the benchmarks now for me. Now if something tells me "Hey, this is not just reverb but a room!" I want to see and feel the room. At least when I close my eyes.
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- KVRAF
- 1888 posts since 13 Aug, 2011 from Berlin
BTW, sometimes your audios refuse to play. Firefox tells me in the lower left corner "Waiting on www.sknote.it...
I had that several times in the past.
I had that several times in the past.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2432 posts since 15 Jul, 2004 from Italy
Well, we should understand the real target set while making the demo. Sometimes it is a "rounding" of the source, sometimes is to let us hear the naked tail after critical (for an artificial reverb) hits, sometimes it is to emulate a real ambience. Verbera is my favourite for "room" and "ambience", because it is really transparent. Stagespace was built to get the features of delay-based reverbs for huge spaces or long tails, but it happens to sound smooth on rooms, too.
If hearing a real ambience is the goal, we could make a focused test
What I'm liking so far is that it doesn't have evident "color", even though it doesn't contain any randomness (for what it matters)
If hearing a real ambience is the goal, we could make a focused test
What I'm liking so far is that it doesn't have evident "color", even though it doesn't contain any randomness (for what it matters)
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2432 posts since 15 Jul, 2004 from Italy
I'd try to get a realistic space, looking for some more audio 
I wonder how much real spaces are needed in some mixes like in pop music, where often reverbs are everything but real.
I wonder how much real spaces are needed in some mixes like in pop music, where often reverbs are everything but real.
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- KVRAF
- 1888 posts since 13 Aug, 2011 from Berlin
I don't really understand that as your GUI suggests realism.
But OK, if Stagespace is not aimed at realistic room and huge spaces simulation then I'm already covered very well with VRoom which does unrealistic rooms and huge spaces much better then what I heard from your audios. IHMO of course.
With plugins like a reverb it's very hard to predict if it will suit my taste without demoing it. But you know that problem.
But OK, if Stagespace is not aimed at realistic room and huge spaces simulation then I'm already covered very well with VRoom which does unrealistic rooms and huge spaces much better then what I heard from your audios. IHMO of course.
With plugins like a reverb it's very hard to predict if it will suit my taste without demoing it. But you know that problem.
