KVR Audio

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:32 pm

jupiter8 wrote:
Nokenoku wrote:
randyandyvandaman wrote:You cannot recreate real voltage topologies ( vco,vcf, vco.)digitally .There are way too variables
Wrong.
There's Phat,warmth and heat shimmer.What else is there ? 3 variables,should be doable.

You'll never recreate the smell of my Opus 3 with software.

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:17 pm

thecontrolcentre wrote:You'll never recreate the smell of my Opus 3 with software.

ScentScape
Ohhh, not so fast there skippy. I can't wait for the "doesn't smell analog" discussions. Also, do odors alias? I know some that cause blurry vision.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:25 pm

Well, didn't someone's CPU get fried using Diva a few days ago?

mztk · Post by **mztk** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:42 pm

skipped thread after page one. that plugin is art, f'sure.

MIDICH1 · Post by **MIDICH1** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:01 pm

thecontrolcentre wrote:
jupiter8 wrote:
Nokenoku wrote:
randyandyvandaman wrote:You cannot recreate real voltage topologies ( vco,vcf, vco.)digitally .There are way too variables
Wrong.
There's Phat,warmth and heat shimmer.What else is there ? 3 variables,should be doable.
You'll never recreate the smell of my Opus 3 with software.

I miss my Opus 3. Actually got a bell sound out of it!

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:09 pm

randyandyvandaman wrote:some blazin' shit!

randyandyvandaman wrote:cheers

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:22 pm

hibidy wrote:
randyandyvandaman wrote:some blazin' shit!

randyandyvandaman wrote:cheers

apparently the hug worked

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:24 pm

Ah, I didn't see everything, just thought it was funny

Motion · Post by **Motion** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:32 pm

Urs wrote:
chacka wrote:
Urs wrote:(And even if she wasn't that gamer changer we believe her to be, she's the most successful product we've ever launched - thousands of users ten days after release can't be such a bad sign)
Cool man! You guy(s) deserve the success.
Thank you! We've almost recouped the investment (phewww)

After using DIVA for a short spell I became more and more convinced that you were involved in Faustian bargaining and have done the deal of all deals.

D(emonically) I(nvoked) V(oltage) A(nalogue)

Tell the truth Urs....there is this guy called "Old Nick" that you still have a reckoning with?

Rev 666?

digitalboytn · Post by **digitalboytn** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:26 pm

randyandyvandaman wrote:I think you are all sucking one another's dick.

Talk about stroking the devs ego.

Why do we have to have ten threads from the one developer alll the time.

Ban me then f**k you counts.

Cheers

You need to change your diet and take a walk in the sunshine Senor...

Also - do some reading,dig a little deeper and get happy....

Then everything you touch may have a little more radiance to it....

I'm not hearing the joy bells right now

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:39 pm

I tried not to actually quote it.

I'd prefer not to see it over and over.....meh......I got my laugh out of it

digitalboytn · Post by **digitalboytn** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:56 pm

chacka wrote:
randyandyvandaman wrote:I think you are all sucking one another's dick.

Talk about stroking the devs ego.

Why do we have to have ten threads from the one developer alll the time.

Ban me then f**k you counts.

Cheers
What happened? Did the cutoff knob of your Mini broke off?

I think that he's just having problems with his mini knob

He needs to get out more...His vocabulary is a little limited...

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:04 pm

goldenanalog wrote:two steps forward, 1 step back...

There will always be a market for analog (I was an audio guy before I was a organ/synth guy)...

DSI: Slightly insider info is that they're not seeing the numbers; and Tempest took more then they were planning on.

Here's a term that I've become familiar with:

'Parts Sourcing'...

I personally would love to see analog proliferate, but cost (including cost of ownership) plus several other factors will continue to drive the market (and innovation) in the other direction.

I really really hope that I'm wrong, my friends.

Well, people will start making parts if there is a demand and maybe Korg with it's Monotrons will help generate a new market.

As for Tempest, they shot themselves in the foot on that one and it's nobody's fault but their own and has nothing to do with the analog nature if it's audio engine (which is hybrid anyway).

First of all, they've yet to put any good audio examples on the site for it. Why? So far I've only heard one single good audio demo from a user. Everything else sounded... well not even as good as software and that good demo came out after some volume bug got correct so I suspect something else was going on with the gain structure that was causing less than stellar audio.

Second, speaking of bugs, they released what was clearly a pre-beta unit and even that was late. How you could release a drum machine in 2011 that didn't sync or respond to MIDI is beyond my powers of comprehension. I got scared away when they missed their first ship date and cancelled my preorder.

I don't know much about hardware manufacturing but I can't imagine it was the right move to release it in an obviously unfinished state. Explain to your pre-orders that you ran into issues and you're not going to release a broken product and I think they'll understand. They made it seem like syncing an analog drum machine to a MIDI clock was some ground breaking coding task... yet the Germans seem to have cracked that issue in their $450 MFB-522. Hell, I even have an analog keyboard with a built in sequencer that works really well with MIDI clock and incoming MIDI events. What's that thing called again... oh right! A MoPho!

Anyway, I don't think the analog nature of Tempest is what gave it troubles, it was the software aspects of it. Maybe trying to do too much? Be all things to all people? Not sure but for my money I think I'm going to go for the Vermona DRM1 Mk3 (which sounds fantastic to me) and use Maschine as it's sequencer/digital sound source and still come out cheaper than the cost of the Tempest.

dmbaer · Post by **dmbaer** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:38 pm

pdxindy wrote:perhaps, but at the moment, more cores does not help run a single instance of a soft synth...

True of DIVA at the moment but not true in general. To the degree that a synth implementer can introduce multi-threading into the processing, multiple cores can indeed make a consequential improvement in how much sound can be delievered by a single instance, be it more consecutive notes sounding or higher levels of rendering quality.

Urs has stated on the u-he forum that his initial attempts at getting multi-threading into DIVA didn't meet with much success. Don't assume that some inspired breakthrough won't happen for a future release of DIVA, however.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:47 pm

dmbaer wrote:
Urs has stated on the u-he forum that his initial attempts at getting multi-threading into DIVA didn't meet with much success. Don't assume that some inspired breakthrough won't happen for a future release of DIVA, however.

I'm not assuming that... but more cores do not help with an instance right now, which is what I said and what is available...

Diva Vs. Real Analog