DIVA known issues
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 24 Sep, 2011 from Albany, California
Running Win7 64-bit...
I never had the spiking problem that "auto-mutes" Reaper, so I figured I was lucky or, perhaps, clever for having invested in RME audio hardware.
For the first time, yesterday, a few patches spiked on me. The difference was that I had been changing the sample rate around (96k, 48k, 44.1k) to observe system performance and audio advantages and disadvantages. (I normally run at 96k all the time with no need to change.)
I did not track the various changes up and down, so I cannot provide a carefully described path to recreating the problem. However, other Diva users who get this unwanted behavior might want to chime in regarding the possibility that shifting the sample rate is part of what leads to the problem.
I never had the spiking problem that "auto-mutes" Reaper, so I figured I was lucky or, perhaps, clever for having invested in RME audio hardware.
For the first time, yesterday, a few patches spiked on me. The difference was that I had been changing the sample rate around (96k, 48k, 44.1k) to observe system performance and audio advantages and disadvantages. (I normally run at 96k all the time with no need to change.)
I did not track the various changes up and down, so I cannot provide a carefully described path to recreating the problem. However, other Diva users who get this unwanted behavior might want to chime in regarding the possibility that shifting the sample rate is part of what leads to the problem.
Jim Strider
www.baybeatsounds.com
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- KVRist
- 115 posts since 9 Sep, 2001 from Fjellhamar, Norway
I see that people have reported this already in this thread, but surely it isn't supposed to be a feature, is it?
On the Triple VCO, the range dials have the same MIDI CC as the detune knobs. I'm currently working on a map in Novations automap, and automap reports when I use learn mode that range and detune are in fact the very same control.
This causes oscillator 2 and 3 to be wildly out of tune (detuned) whenever I twist the range dials.
On the Triple VCO, the range dials have the same MIDI CC as the detune knobs. I'm currently working on a map in Novations automap, and automap reports when I use learn mode that range and detune are in fact the very same control.
This causes oscillator 2 and 3 to be wildly out of tune (detuned) whenever I twist the range dials.
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- KVRAF
- 4197 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
It's a feature, IMHO a pretty good one. The footage and detune knobs are a single wide-range frequency control. BTW it's not only the Triple VCO.Z wrote:I see that people have reported this already in this thread, but surely it isn't supposed to be a feature, is it?
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- KVRist
- 98 posts since 26 May, 2004
But Howard, because of the single wide-range frequency control it's not possible to tune (via MIDI) the osc's in unison, octaves, fourths, or fifths. Not to mention that 128 MIDI steps divided up over 5 octaves is much too sensitive to be musically useful, IMHO. Of all parameters, osc pitch should have fine control. Again, I'm talking MIDI control.
Diva sounds like hardware. I'd like to control it with hardware.
Note: Regarding not being able to tune osc's in unison, there is one exception: If both (or all) are set to 8' Range, then zero-beat unison is possible. If both (or all) are at, say, 16', then zero-beat unison is not possible. Again, via MIDI.
Diva sounds like hardware. I'd like to control it with hardware.
Note: Regarding not being able to tune osc's in unison, there is one exception: If both (or all) are set to 8' Range, then zero-beat unison is possible. If both (or all) are at, say, 16', then zero-beat unison is not possible. Again, via MIDI.
- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 30188 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
We have a great solution for MIDI in the making... separate control over semitones and cents... no worries, but it takes a few more weeks to get there...
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- KVRist
- 115 posts since 9 Sep, 2001 from Fjellhamar, Norway
Or simply an unlink button would doUrs wrote:We have a great solution for MIDI in the making... separate control over semitones and cents... no worries, but it takes a few more weeks to get there...
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- KVRian
- 934 posts since 26 May, 2008 from Colorado
Hi folks,
I've got FL Studio 10 on a 64bit system using Diva 32bit:
I'm automating the pan knob within Diva on a bassline and I'm getting some funky little zipper sound fx. Made sure it wasn't the bass itself aliasing or anything by keeping the signal mono, and it wasn't that. I peeled through this thread to see if anyone else had the same issue, and someone mentioned the problem, only they were using a square LFO inside Diva to modulate panning instead of using their host's automation.
So I went to replicate his problem, and I got REALLY bad buzzing.

So I tried, like he said he had, to smooth it out with the lag generator, and I, like him, had no improvements.
I get the buzzing even if I hand automate it in FL10, then go to smooth out the event with interpolation.
Oh, and also, when she is set to divine, the problem persists. Exported to a wav file with offline settings at 'best' and no difference.
Cheers,
- Corin
I've got FL Studio 10 on a 64bit system using Diva 32bit:
I'm automating the pan knob within Diva on a bassline and I'm getting some funky little zipper sound fx. Made sure it wasn't the bass itself aliasing or anything by keeping the signal mono, and it wasn't that. I peeled through this thread to see if anyone else had the same issue, and someone mentioned the problem, only they were using a square LFO inside Diva to modulate panning instead of using their host's automation.
So I went to replicate his problem, and I got REALLY bad buzzing.
So I tried, like he said he had, to smooth it out with the lag generator, and I, like him, had no improvements.
I get the buzzing even if I hand automate it in FL10, then go to smooth out the event with interpolation.
Oh, and also, when she is set to divine, the problem persists. Exported to a wav file with offline settings at 'best' and no difference.
Cheers,
- Corin
- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 30188 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Yeah... smooth panning is on the todo list - seems to be a problem everywhere, I'm quite stunned myself.
- KVRian
- 934 posts since 26 May, 2008 from Colorado
Ahhh, excellent, thanks!
It's pretty much undetectable(for me at least) when using patches with high cutoff settings...I most certainly didn't notice it until I rolled off the highs for the bassline...
It's pretty much undetectable(for me at least) when using patches with high cutoff settings...I most certainly didn't notice it until I rolled off the highs for the bassline...
- KVRAF
- 1942 posts since 29 Aug, 2003 from Austin, TX
Same problem here, I'm using W7 64bit Ultimate with Sonar X1 64bit as well.jimstrider wrote:Running Win7 64-bit...
I never had the spiking problem that "auto-mutes" Reaper, so I figured I was lucky or, perhaps, clever for having invested in RME audio hardware.
For the first time, yesterday, a few patches spiked on me. The difference was that I had been changing the sample rate around (96k, 48k, 44.1k) to observe system performance and audio advantages and disadvantages. (I normally run at 96k all the time with no need to change.)
I did not track the various changes up and down, so I cannot provide a carefully described path to recreating the problem. However, other Diva users who get this unwanted behavior might want to chime in regarding the possibility that shifting the sample rate is part of what leads to the problem.
I was using the full version (just bought
Is there anythinkg I could send that would help figure out the problem?
Thanks! Riley
Macbook Pro M4, Ableton 12 Suite, NI Komplete
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- KVRAF
- 12443 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
I think Urs said, in this thread or the main one, that they were already on the case and are hoping to get a fix out early next week so just hang tight a few days.riley4reason wrote:
Is there anythinkg I could send that would help figure out the problem?
Thanks! Riley
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- KVRist
- 395 posts since 11 Dec, 2004
Greetings, I just thought I would provide feedback about the issues I'm having with Diva.
Admittedly, I haven't yet read through this thread so perhaps some of this may be redundant to descriptions posted earlier. In any case, I presume that any user feedback may be helpful...
First of all, I will say that Diva is an awesome sounding synth and full kudos to Urs and the development team and preset designers!
Here are my experiences:
I just loaded the latest version of both 64 and 32-bit Diva.
Running Windows 7 64-bit - Sonar 8.5 (64-bit version) Sample Rate 44100.
When I run 32-bit Diva, it stutters almost all the time even in "great" mode so that version seems to be mostly useless for me at the moment.
When I run 64-bit Diva, it seems to have mostly no problems in "great" mode, but soon after switching to "divine" mode, the sound is superb, but soon I begin to accumulate more and more audio distortion and anomalies as well as dropped notes (I press the key but nothing happens). Eventually the engine mostly fails and I receive almost nothging but distortion. Trying to switch back to "great" mode does not help and I have to completely shut down that instance of Diva and start over. It's as if going into "divine" mode corrupts the engine somehow.
I'm using a Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi sound card which for all other instruments sounds great. I'm not sure if getting another sound card would help the situation but definitely open to suggestions.
Thanks,
OC
Admittedly, I haven't yet read through this thread so perhaps some of this may be redundant to descriptions posted earlier. In any case, I presume that any user feedback may be helpful...
First of all, I will say that Diva is an awesome sounding synth and full kudos to Urs and the development team and preset designers!
Here are my experiences:
I just loaded the latest version of both 64 and 32-bit Diva.
Running Windows 7 64-bit - Sonar 8.5 (64-bit version) Sample Rate 44100.
When I run 32-bit Diva, it stutters almost all the time even in "great" mode so that version seems to be mostly useless for me at the moment.
When I run 64-bit Diva, it seems to have mostly no problems in "great" mode, but soon after switching to "divine" mode, the sound is superb, but soon I begin to accumulate more and more audio distortion and anomalies as well as dropped notes (I press the key but nothing happens). Eventually the engine mostly fails and I receive almost nothging but distortion. Trying to switch back to "great" mode does not help and I have to completely shut down that instance of Diva and start over. It's as if going into "divine" mode corrupts the engine somehow.
I'm using a Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi sound card which for all other instruments sounds great. I'm not sure if getting another sound card would help the situation but definitely open to suggestions.
Thanks,
OC
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- KVRAF
- 12443 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
In addition, keep in mind that DIVA is VERY processor intensive. If you're on an older machine, then I'd expect crackled/distorted audio in Divine mode on polyphonic patches. I get them on my i7. Divine mode is not recommended for realtime use for polyphonic patches (especially not patches with a lot of resonance), but maybe in 5 or 10 years it will be.zvenx wrote:what type of processor do you have?
I don't think Creative are known for great asio drivers tbh.
rsp
