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forbiddensilence · Post by **forbiddensilence** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:07 pm

i need a second opinion on how big exactly how many gbs the Concert strings 2 is....i have downloaded everything

i prefer a win user..
If you right click strings folder and do properties...pls write the full size and folders as i'm only getting

Size 28.8 GB (31,004,096,281 bytes)

Size on disk 29gb

Contains 51,510 Files, 752 Folders

Thanks

forbiddensilence · Post by **forbiddensilence** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:46 pm

is anyone having problems with the wrong notes being triggered when using DivisiLive... i experience a pitch shift of possibly a quarter tone down when playing 2 notes together.

Just to be clear...the notes are correct until played simultaneously.. note "E3" being the offender. I'm not incredibly clued up about kontakt so i wouldnt know how to pinpoint the error. Sorry

i was using 1st Cellos 12,6,3,1 Players All Articulations
To create this error try this...
i.e keep pressing 'keys Notes F2 and E3' together until you hear the pitch change with 'E3' ..let go of the F2 to isolate the sound of "E3" and hear the pitch more clearly..., then let go of 'E3' and just play 'E3' on its own ....it will then return to the correct pitch.
Lord have mercy... very confusing.

Ps could it be that im playing it via my laptop keys???

I also want to say, i love the concert strings 2!!!! amazing..can't wait to write something myself to showcase these fellas!! Thanks Kirk!

godprobe · Post by **godprobe** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:53 pm

I was going to post my file sizes, but I've also tweaked my extraction quite a bit (most notably, through removing all of the Mac-specific files like the __MACOSX folder and any files starting with a single period). Also, I'm not 100% sure how the sizes are reported depending on Windows hide/show files preferences (by default, when hiding files, all the Mac files that start with a period are usually hidden on Windows) and depending on operating system. Add to *that* that my download links are from the combo CS2/CB2 download and it's just not worth reporting specific sizes.

I have another suggestion though... MD5 hashes. That should be a reliable enough estimate of whether or not your download is okay. Not sure how to get the MD5 hash of a file? This is what I use... it adds a file hash tab to every file's Right-click > Properties dialog in Windows...
http://implbits.com/HashTab/HashTabWindows.aspx

As near as I could tell from the CS2/CB2 combo, I *think* these are the files that are CS2-only, along with their MD5 hash. I downloaded these on the 4th of January... I'm not sure if all of the updates were included in these files already or not...

5069C7DF394B4464EB4CFAC88BFB8D8E - 00_TVEC3.1_Instruments.zip
804BA26074C17FF1FDDB795F80E97D62 - 01_TVEC2_Instruments.zip
20A7957A2F6FB31792B650156D6D20B6 - bss_half_samples.zip
802BD15E31057B790E85049F0B50B2C2 - bss_quarter_samples.zip
3BE0E6D4804D42FBB4454046E67C40F5 - bss_solo_samples.zip
5A2D32FFD3DE705D914FBBB20595AFE1 - bss_whole_samples.zip
E9807FE2EDF68202BA23986261AEC404 - comb_half_samples.zip
F58C9E448951862FD550B4588ECD1B48 - comb_quarter_samples.zip
3F4EF72B8A0C78088AB19D9EF792DBD8 - comb_solo_samples.zip
8BAE36D2A268302AFB922EBDDEB31A9A - comb_whole_samples.zip
DCD9248471916F3E3E95FCA3F549770A - vas_half_samples.zip
38E87A37C63EEFD801E057EF62A06228 - vas_quarter_samples.zip
7818EFE99F93D0234319DB2A118CAB7F - vas_solo_samples.zip
D7E34DC79D30436072CC1E37AAEFE4C4 - vas_whole_samples.zip
7F4C87F062554B1720CBEE5381CA9C29 - vcs_half_samples.zip
94A409EC16E2C198C4DBB466AE1667EC - vcs_hpc_half.zip
29ACE8F396584BBD04DDC2E1D6B74469 - vcs_hpc_quarter.zip
FA078FF74AE0BBE932634135050FBB97 - vcs_quarter_samples.zip
0E68AE12493E3A46F5D0B85AC6D59398 - vcs_solo_samples.zip
E1506A6E0F18BAD50B590F16445F0F05 - vcs_whole_samples.zip
88816C3BBA36CB24311E208B1F633700 - vns_half_samples.zip
4023C49B95623A1D1350C15CCE3A3D91 - vns_quarter_samples.zip
372D8C5BBA9568A5489EA3C2AE652010 - vns_solo_samples.zip
27B7C34AF1367A2D98D6093EBC144992 - vns_whole_samples.zip
E9C992C4440D673D4CE2F000FBAF8A9F - vns_whole_samples_pzz2.zip

godprobe · Post by **godprobe** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:04 pm

So far, I can't duplicate your pitch issue. :-\ I am using a physical midi piano keyboard, but I don't *think* that would matter... computer keyboards are definitely wired very differently though.

forbiddensilence · Post by **forbiddensilence** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:05 pm

I will check these..thanks, my rar files are on another hard drive in another town!! I understand where your coming from, thanks for your effort!

forbiddensilence · Post by **forbiddensilence** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:07 pm

godprobe wrote:So far, I can't duplicate your pitch issue. :-\ I am using a physical midi piano keyboard, but I don't *think* that would matter... computer keyboards are definitely wired very differently though.

interesting..my ears are fine..i knew this would happen!
keep pressing the 2 keys together and let go at intervals of 1 sec...until you hear something odd...

hmm i'll try a decent midi keyboard...see if it helps

synchronizer · Post by **synchronizer** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:52 pm

Any word on bug and sample fixes yet?

synchronizer · Post by **synchronizer** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:29 am

Sorry for double posting, but there are some bona fide round robin issues that are breaking the instruments. Repeated playing of notes sometimes returns no sound. This is specifically with the solo cello, but I advise double checking every TVEC 3.1 instrument, for I've found this issue in other cases as well; namely the viola and double bass. The violin seems to be the only string instrument that is not afflicted with this problem. Please fix it as soon as possible! Thank you

.

EDIT: It seems to occur on certain notes, but please double check. I can't use the instrument until this is fixed. I'm sure it'll be quick...

Forge Audio Designs · Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:11 am

tophatwilliam wrote:The list of articulations for concert brass II, posted on kirk hunter's site, seems different then what is running in kontakt for me.....
here is a list of missing articulations that I was curious if others had them or if i am misreading what should be installed

trombone
solo --- flutter, shortFX(fall,scoop)

french horn
solo ----- flutter, shortFX(fall,scoop)
2 player ----- flutter
4 player ------- flutter
french horn mute
2,4,8 player ------ flutter, shortFX(fall,scoop)

trumpet
solo --------- shortFX(fall,scoop)
trumpet mute
2,4,8 player --------- shortFX(fall,scoop)

i was thinking since they were not "greyed out" as other unavailable articulations are, that i may have something else going on.......i tried reinstalling....

thank you for any thoughts on the above....
Christopher

Have you emailed Kirk about this?

synchronizer · Post by **synchronizer** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:56 pm

I wouldn't be so upset about my problem if it were acknowledged. Just now I was playing with the Diamond violin, and some of the highest notes don't have any glissando down samples, and yet AGAIN, sometimes, notes aren't played at all. This seems to be exclusive to ALL solo strings. I could be wrong though.

Furthermore, why is it that each division can play different notes? The 4 player division can play to the highest note possible on a keyboard, while the ranges of all of the other divisions are limited in comparison. It doesn't make sense to me. Should I be able to play the same notes across all divisions?

From my understanding, all of the products seem to have some variation of the problem: Missing samples and articulations, plus occasional nonexistent sound. Forget my past keyswitch and user interface woes, but PLEASE resolve these HUGE issues.

Thank you.

DarkStar · Post by **DarkStar** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:27 pm

Well, I hope that Kirk is busy fixing the issues that have been reported in this thread. And that he can take some time out to give us a progress report.

synchronizer · Post by **synchronizer** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:30 pm

Indeed, please understand that I'm not being libelous; I really want the product I bought to be in perfect shape. Looking forward to some developments...

KirkHunter · Post by **KirkHunter** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:51 am

synchronizer wrote:Sorry for double posting, but there are some bona fide round robin issues that are breaking the instruments. Repeated playing of notes sometimes returns no sound. This is specifically with the solo cello, but I advise double checking every TVEC 3.1 instrument, for I've found this issue in other cases as well; namely the viola and double bass. The violin seems to be the only string instrument that is not afflicted with this problem. Please fix it as soon as possible! Thank you .

EDIT: It seems to occur on certain notes, but please double check. I can't use the instrument until this is fixed. I'm sure it'll be quick...

Hi,

Ok, I'm BAAACK. I've been swamped with getting rebates out, holiday stuff, and general end of year things, not to mention the upcoming NAMM show.

So...for my convenience, can you restate the issue you're having with RR?

KirkHunter · Post by **KirkHunter** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:54 am

synchronizer wrote:I wouldn't be so upset about my problem if it were acknowledged. Just now I was playing with the Diamond violin, and some of the highest notes don't have any glissando down samples, and yet AGAIN, sometimes, notes aren't played at all. This seems to be exclusive to ALL solo strings. I could be wrong though.

Furthermore, why is it that each division can play different notes? The 4 player division can play to the highest note possible on a keyboard, while the ranges of all of the other divisions are limited in comparison. It doesn't make sense to me. Should I be able to play the same notes across all divisions?

From my understanding, all of the products seem to have some variation of the problem: Missing samples and articulations, plus occasional nonexistent sound. Forget my past keyswitch and user interface woes, but PLEASE resolve these HUGE issues.

Thank you.

In Diamond, the instruments were all recorded at different times and such. So the implementation of TVEC 3 obviously and simply put the instruments' range as played at the time. I guess I could snip out the largest ranges to make things consistent. Would you find that better?

KirkHunter · Post by **KirkHunter** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:56 am

DarkStar wrote:^^^^
Re Diamond:

Just rename the two Solo Strings folders to add the __ prefix. I think that this was documented somewhere (in the midst of the GB thread). My guess is that these folders were created / changed to produce the Solo Strings product, hence the additional documentation.

Re CB II:

-- extract them into their own folder, not into Diamond,
-- I imagine the TVEC III patches are included in the other .zips (in Diamond, they were an add-on, so in a separate .zip file),
-- I would extract those 4 .zip files into your main CB II folder, along with the other Samples files.

Thanks Dark,

You're absolutely correct about the renaming. Some extraction apps take out underscores.

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