KVR Audio

Johnny! · Post by **Johnny!** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:27 pm

yeah this one I know, but its been a long time since anyone uploaded anything new there...

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:34 pm

The others in that pack I linked to are generally better I think... but yes, there was quite a craze for producing skins about four years ago, which soon died down when people realised that producing a good graphical look is actually easier said than done

mrdr · Post by **mrdr** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:42 pm

suecae_sounds · Post by **suecae_sounds** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:16 pm

The magnitude of the reception proves at least one thing, despite a saturated market - Bitwig seemw to provoke a quite diverse response. I really hope they manage to use this for good, and that they will not drag their feets and loose momentum. I'm really curious as to try out their studio solution.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:19 pm

For me, a big point of Live, that's lost on me, is...that it's designed to use "live" and I don't. So I like the feature set and work flow (for the most part) but I'm paying a CPU price for something that I don't use, ie the real time temporal manipulation. I doubt if I've ever pitch/time stretched a sample in Live. Ever. OK, once to see if it worked.

So if this ends up being a tool that's less of a live beat matching/mixing tool and more of a traditional DAW with Live inspiration, I'm in.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:19 pm

@suecae_sounds. Agreed

S-N-S · Post by **S-N-S** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:40 pm

headquest wrote:Included in a free pack of skins here:

http://www.aurexmusic.com/lpdownloads

(scroll to bottom of page)

going abit OT here,but do anyone know if mashdeck and the other stuff works with live intro??

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:54 pm

S-N-S wrote:
headquest wrote:Included in a free pack of skins here:

http://www.aurexmusic.com/lpdownloads

(scroll to bottom of page)
going abit OT here,but do anyone know if mashdeck and the other stuff works with live intro??

No idea - sorry (I'm not the creator of this stuff, just sharing a link for the skins).

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:20 am

suecae_sounds wrote:The magnitude of the reception proves at least one thing, despite a saturated market - Bitwig seemw to provoke a quite diverse response.

Dressing up in a donkey suit and singing ave maria in the middle of the M25 would provoke quite a diverse response as well.

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:50 am

felonytrance · Post by **felonytrance** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:35 am

zerocrossing wrote:For me, a big point of Live, that's lost on me, is...that it's designed to use "live" and I don't. So I like the feature set and work flow (for the most part) but I'm paying a CPU price for something that I don't use, ie the real time temporal manipulation. I doubt if I've ever pitch/time stretched a sample in Live. Ever. OK, once to see if it worked. So if this ends up being a tool that's less of a live beat matching/mixing tool and more of a traditional DAW with Live inspiration, I'm in.

I don't always think that this is a valid excuse for the CPU usage.

Check what someone recently posted on the ableton forum

Ok, perhaps someone can help shed some light on this.

1 instance of Kontakt, with patch of about 50 simultaneous voices, 256 sample buffer:

- Live 8.2.7 - 35%
- Live 8.1.5 - 22%
- Live 7.0.18 - 7%

Setup: iMac, 4core i5, 8gb RAM, Saffire PRO 40

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=175286

I've had similar issues where I've been able to use ton of plugs and not have bad CPU usage and then the next update comes along and it drastically increases.

People were up in arms when reason 6 increased a little bit but with ableton you never really know what your going to get update to update. I just want it to be consistent, less features, and stable for live stuff not half assed DAW features.

states · Post by **states** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:39 am

spaceman wrote: Dressing up in a donkey suit and singing ave maria in the middle of the M25 would provoke quite a diverse response as well.

gpunk · Post by **gpunk** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:00 pm

felonytrance wrote:
zerocrossing wrote:For me, a big point of Live, that's lost on me, is...that it's designed to use "live" and I don't. So I like the feature set and work flow (for the most part) but I'm paying a CPU price for something that I don't use, ie the real time temporal manipulation. I doubt if I've ever pitch/time stretched a sample in Live. Ever. OK, once to see if it worked. So if this ends up being a tool that's less of a live beat matching/mixing tool and more of a traditional DAW with Live inspiration, I'm in.
I don't always think that this is a valid excuse for the CPU usage.

Check what someone recently posted on the ableton forum

Ok, perhaps someone can help shed some light on this.

1 instance of Kontakt, with patch of about 50 simultaneous voices, 256 sample buffer:

- Live 8.2.7 - 35%
- Live 8.1.5 - 22%
- Live 7.0.18 - 7%

Setup: iMac, 4core i5, 8gb RAM, Saffire PRO 40

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=175286

I've had similar issues where I've been able to use ton of plugs and not have bad CPU usage and then the next update comes along and it drastically increases.

People were up in arms when reason 6 increased a little bit but with ableton you never really know what your going to get update to update. I just want it to be consistent, less features, and stable for live stuff not half assed DAW features.

Sounds about right with my experiences of Live too, I hope Bitwig will be a much better app all round with resources, It's about time somebody did something similar to Live but with better system use, really looking forward to it

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:34 pm

felonytrance wrote: Ok, perhaps someone can help shed some light on this.

1 instance of Kontakt, with patch of about 50 simultaneous voices, 256 sample buffer:

- Live 8.2.7 - 35%
- Live 8.1.5 - 22%
- Live 7.0.18 - 7%

Setup: iMac, 4core i5, 8gb RAM, Saffire PRO 40

I saw similar CPU usage on a MBP. However, adding more and more plugins didn't actually add a lot of extra CPU.

christianmusicmaker · Post by **christianmusicmaker** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:45 pm

spaceman wrote:
suecae_sounds wrote:The magnitude of the reception proves at least one thing, despite a saturated market - Bitwig seemw to provoke a quite diverse response.
Dressing up in a donkey suit and singing ave maria in the middle of the M25 would provoke quite a diverse response as well.

...but would not work with MIDI or Audio clips even if you asked really nicely.

Bitwig (!/?)