iTunes Match

[mkdr]

Personally I love the fact that I have my complete music collection available on my iPhone or iPad, not matter where I go. (if I have an internet connection, of course).

I love that too.. I can fit alot in 32 gigs.

According to Apple advertisements 32gigs should hold up to 8000 songs. Did you spend 8000$ or more on songs?

[darsho]

I love that too.. I can fit alot in 32 gigs.

According to Apple advertisements 32gigs should hold up to 8000 songs. Did you spend 8000$ or more on songs?

I don't know. I never counted what I spent on cassette tapes, Vinyl records, CDs and Audiofiles I purchased over past decades. But I doubt it is so much.
Currently I have ~ 3000 songs in my audio collection, which seems very much to me, but I have friends with much more.

[Dewaine]

I'd rather have a USB stick or external drive with me, containing all my music. But for completely unknown reasons, Apple doesn't allow you to connect any such devices to your iDevice directly.
What I don't want is anyone to perhaps spy out my music (and whatever other data). That's why all these online storage services are an absolute no go. And it'll be like that as long as I live, regardless of how much Apple and whatever other dictators would like me to use such services, regardless whether it's "on the fence of technology".
As easy as that.

- SF

In post after post, you have to be the most negative person on KVR! Is there anything you own you do like?

Anyway...... If you want to use USB sticks then more power to you. But like floppy drives of old, they are fading fast. I have used Dropbox for years now, and never have to worry about keeping up with a USB stick or SD card or whatever. With cloud services my data is available on my iPhone, iPad or Mac anytime. iCloud is wonderful as well. I am delighted with current technology, and see great improvements ahead!

That being said, I am not a fan of iTunes Match. I own it, but really don't use it.... I plan on not getting it again when my sub runs out. It is great, just not for me.

[Sascha Franck]

In post after post, you have to be the most negative person on KVR! Is there anything you own you do like?

Someone's got to be that person.
Anyway, there's lots of things I own and like.

Anyway...... If you want to use USB sticks then more power to you. But like floppy drives of old, they are fading fast. I have used Dropbox for years now, and never have to worry about keeping up with a USB stick or SD card or whatever. With cloud services my data is available on my iPhone, iPad or Mac anytime. iCloud is wonderful as well. I am delighted with current technology, and see great improvements ahead!

Tell all that to german telephone providers and their foreign country policies. Then you know why I won't do all that.

- SF

[polaris20]

I'd rather have a USB stick or external drive with me, containing all my music. But for completely unknown reasons, Apple doesn't allow you to connect any such devices to your iDevice directly.
What I don't want is anyone to perhaps spy out my music (and whatever other data). That's why all these online storage services are an absolute no go. And it'll be like that as long as I live, regardless of how much Apple and whatever other dictators would like me to use such services, regardless whether it's "on the fence of technology".
As easy as that.

- SF

Then don't buy an f'ing Apple product if you don't like how it works! Jesus Christ, you complain about Apple here, you complain about Android elsewhere, is there anything that makes you happy? You're so goddamn bitter in every thread, it's actually quite comical. When someone disagrees with you, they're "sheep", or some other bullshit insult.

And you'd have to be living under a rock or completely blind to think that cloud services aren't the future. Have you heard of Amazon? Microsoft? Google? Netflix? Carbonite? Dropbox? Box.net? Soundcloud.com? Hulu? Evernote? SalesForce? SAP?

Enjoy carrying your USB stick with you everywhere, when the rest of us have 20Mbps+ connections on our phone and access to hundreds of GB of data anytime, anywhere.

You're either a bitter little man, or your a troll. I can't decide which.

[polaris20]

Personally I love the fact that I have my complete music collection available on my iPhone or iPad, not matter where I go. (if I have an internet connection, of course).

I love that too.. I can fit alot in 32 gigs.

According to Apple advertisements 32gigs should hold up to 8000 songs. Did you spend 8000$ or more on songs?

It's not the 8000 songs, it's the 1.5GB games I've got, 1GB music apps, etc.

[aMUSEd]

Personally I love the fact that I have my complete music collection available on my iPhone or iPad, not matter where I go. (if I have an internet connection, of course).

I love that too.. I can fit alot in 32 gigs.

According to Apple advertisements 32gigs should hold up to 8000 songs. Did you spend 8000$ or more on songs?

It's not the 8000 songs, it's the 1.5GB games I've got, 1GB music apps, etc.

Yep - my iPad 2 is 64GB and I still just have 12GB free - half of that is data and apps and a few movies

but my iTunes library has around 13,000 "songs" and many of these are lengthy classical or jazz pieces so no way would they fit even if I devoted my whole iPad just to music - but I can access them all using iCloud and just store the bare minimum so more space for other stuff and overall just more flexibility

[Martin [Camel Web Guy]]

iCloud is not too bad for the price really - it matched about 1/2 my library instantly and then took around 3 days to upload the rest. A lot better than the weeks it took to upload them to Mozy and Livedrive (2 other online storage solutions I have subscribed to in the past to keep a backup of music files).

But there is some strange behaviour with it - for instance I applied a load of missing artwork to my library and pulled a few albums together (you know when you get more than a single artist name on an album so it treats them as separate albums). When I next opened my library the artwork was all fine but the albums had re-split, this was on the same machine that I had done the tagging and the files were all still local. So that was a bit annoying. I'm sure it'll be improved over time, it's still a service very much in its infancy.

[polaris20]

The only thing actually useful (to me, anyway) right now about Apple's cloud services currently are iTunes Match and Photostream. It's nice being able to download any album I want, anytime I want, without actually having to worry about syncing it to my iTunes all the time.

Photostream is great because every pic I take is streamed over to iPhoto immediately, so I don't have to connect my phone all the time to add them to my library. The rest though is not really useful, since I don't use Safari for bookmarks (I use XMarks to sync), I use Dropbox for Office docs, video, etc, and GMail for mail. It's good to have options though, and between all the stuff out there, it doesn't matter if you're using Windows 7, OS X, Linux, Windows Phone 7, Android, or iOS, there's something that'll work well.

I've been using Google Music too, and it has it's charms for when I'm on a machine that doesn't have iTunes and I just want to stream music within a browser.

[Sascha Franck]

And you'd have to be living under a rock or completely blind to think that cloud services aren't the future. Have you heard of Amazon? Microsoft? Google? Netflix? Carbonite? Dropbox? Box.net? Soundcloud.com? Hulu? Evernote? SalesForce? SAP?

I use several online storage services.
But I don't put any sensible data up there. As easy as that.

Enjoy carrying your USB stick with you everywhere, when the rest of us have 20Mbps+ connections on our phone and access to hundreds of GB of data anytime, anywhere.

That's a myth. I don't have access to that data anytime, anywhere - I need an online connection. And that can still be very expensive in some parts of the world.

- Sascha

[polaris20]

I use several online storage services.
But I don't put any sensible data up there. As easy as that.

Oh, so you do use cloud services. Just frivolous data though, huh? Sounds useful.

That's a myth. I don't have access to that data anytime, anywhere - I need an online connection. And that can still be very expensive in some parts of the world.

I thought you understood I meant "anytime, anywhere with a data connection", but seeing as how you're being a pedantic pain in the ass, yes: you need a data connection. Last time I looked, 3G services were readily available in my country and yours, and wifi is pretty common. I'm sorry to hear that your 3-year old phone doesn't have properly functioning wifi or 3G. My iPhone 4's 3G and wifi work very well, so it's not a problem here.

EDIT

Oh hey, what do you know! O2 has 3G coverage in Hannover, Germany for less than what I pay here! I guess it's not so bad after all.

[Hovmod]

3G becomes RIDICULOUSLY expensive as soon as you cross borders.
Last time I checked, I pay about 8 US$ per MB outside Norway.
I travel for work.
You do the math.

[polaris20]

3G becomes RIDICULOUSLY expensive as soon as you cross borders.
Last time I checked, I pay about 8 US$ per MB outside Norway.
I travel for work.
You do the math.

Sure it does. That doesn't make cloud services useless and/or stupid for general use though. If you travel a lot, it seems like it's not for you. That doesn't make it useless for everyone.

The common thought process here is "it doesn't work for me, or I don't like it, therefore it's stupid for everyone". No single solution works for everybody, no single device works for everybody.

What IS a problem is that condescending, bitter attitude displayed so prominently by people like Sascha when opinions or preferences differ.

[polaris20]

Anyway I'm done here. Enjoy being bitter and disagreeable as usual, Sascha. I'm sure someone will post something else for you to complain about very soon.

[Sascha Franck]

3G becomes RIDICULOUSLY expensive as soon as you cross borders.
Last time I checked, I pay about 8 US$ per MB outside Norway.
I travel for work.
You do the math.

Similar here. But even inside germany, it can still become problematic.
Sure, I do have a socalled flatrate, but there's still many places in germany where I get EDGE speed at best - and it doesn't make any sense to download anything at that speed. Then, the socalled flatrate only allows for 1 GB a month at full speed, after that you're capped down to 64kbps speed, again not exactly what you want when trying to get some different 10 albums onto your phone.
Add all this and there's still a big need for physical storage devices - at least over here. Just that stupid Apple restricts iDevices from having direct access to them.

- Sascha