Does Zebra allow user Wavetables?

[TwoToneshuzz]

... The big problem as mentioned is navigating 26 k samples!

The above mentioned "converters" are made for single cycle waveforms LIKE the "Architecture" series.

Your folder ("bank" of available waveforms) is too large for the purpose you have stated... [2c]

26000 waves is too large of course it is, but like any library with time you get an idea of what is usable..

Sweeps and so on could take ten-thirty waveforms, then multiply that by four unique voice streams interacting with one another then you've used 120 single waves. These might take 1 mb of space in ram. It's a weird world this wavestable, wavesequencing stuff. Nerdy. Unpredicatable and enriching. No wonder there's not that many synths that offer this functionallity, it's too HARD to use. Great an unexplored area, for average Yewsers.

Regards

Wade

[Urs]

Back then I deliberately limited the number of waveforms to 16. To me that still is the sweet spot where it's not too tedious to edit them all, while being diverse enough to allow for interesting sweeps.

Not to forget, the spline based waveforms literally morph, they don't just crossfade. Thus you get complex transistions with nearly unlimitted steps inbetween - which no classical wavetable synth can offer.

On top of that you have those rather unique oscillator effects, which can bend the waveforms in all sorts of directions. That goes well beyond wavetable synthesis, it gives you multiple degrees of freedom to sweep waves, at a minimum cost of effort/time to put into it.

However, we'll be working on higher resolution wavetables, wavetable/sample import, wave<->spline / wave<->spectrum conversion etc. etc. for some of the next updates. Whatever makes those oscillators happy, makes us happy

Urs

[EvilDragon]

However, we'll be working on higher resolution wavetables, wavetable/sample import, wave<->spline / wave<->spectrum conversion etc. etc. for some of the next updates. Whatever makes those oscillators happy, makes us happy

Applying these updates to Zebralette as well? If so, Zebralette could very well become an extremely flexible freebie (as if it isn't already)!

[Urs]

However, we'll be working on higher resolution wavetables, wavetable/sample import, wave<->spline / wave<->spectrum conversion etc. etc. for some of the next updates. Whatever makes those oscillators happy, makes us happy

Applying these updates to Zebralette as well? If so, Zebralette could very well become an extremely flexible freebie (as if it isn't already)!

Probably

[Shabdahbriah]

... unexplored area, for average Yewsers.

Indeed.

[bmrzycki]

we'll be working on higher resolution wavetables, wavetable/sample import, wave<->spline / wave<->spectrum conversion etc. etc. for some of the next updates. Whatever makes those oscillators happy, makes us happy

Sounds excellent, looking forward to playing with your new mad-scientist creations! Until then you have to rest on your vacation!

[Shabdahbriah]

... However, we'll be working on higher resolution wavetables, wavetable/sample import, wave<->spline / wave<->spectrum conversion etc. etc. for some of the next updates. Whatever makes those oscillators happy, makes us happy

Will you be accepting third-party contributions

I making single-cycle waveforms/wavetables*.


(*term used loosely)

[liquidsound]

However, we'll be working on higher resolution wavetables, wavetable/sample import, wave<->spline / wave<->spectrum conversion etc. etc. for some of the next updates. Whatever makes those oscillators happy, makes us happy

Now the book "Why zebras don't get ulcers" makes sense! Pure pleasure!

[pdxindy]

If you're thinking of single cycle waves that are scanned thru in a table, with each one harmonically slightly different than the last (or not for special FX), then between the morphing waveforms and Osc FX that entire sonic territory is covered by Zebra.

The Osc FX and how they interact with the continuously changing waveforms fed to them from the wave editor produces the kinds of results which would fill a wavetable anyway - the difference is you're doing it on the fly in Zebra, you can combine Osc FX (essentially creating the equivalent of a 3D wavetable (1 dimension of waveform morphing, two dimensions of Osc FX interactions)!), and you get to choose how frequently a new waveform is calculated, so you can have retro PPG style sweeps or continuous morphing and mangling... Not to mention the instant gratification of it all.

Thanks I did not have this insight. But still isn't a resource where you bring in waves that are custom designed for bringing out certain effects and not just generated on the fly a more solid foundation for getting usable results? How specific can you be with the wave generator I'm wondering.

What I'm thinking is with these custom designed waves there a fair bit of know how behind the way they are built up and not something I can just tweak a few knobs to achieve the same result.

Not to disparage the Wave generating functionallity in Zebra at all. It's me, the users that perhaps is the weak link in the chain.

Regards

Wade

You can import any single cycle waveform into Zebra... That function is not built into Zebra but there is a utility for doing so. So you could put that whole Galbanum library in if you had the patience!

Also, you can hand draw any waveform in Zebra. There are a couple methods in Zebra where you can use either splines or hand draw additive harmonics. With the splines you are actually morphing from one wave to another and not just crossfading like with classic wavetables. You can draw a waveform in slot 1 and a waveform in slot 16 and Zebra can generate intermediate waveforms in between.

You have to try the OscFX to see how capable they are. And that is all in 1 osc. You have 4 of them in Zebra.

[mcnoone]

we'll be working on higher resolution wavetables, wavetable/sample import, wave<->spline / wave<->spectrum conversion etc. etc. for some of the next updates. Whatever makes those oscillators happy, makes us happy

Sounds excellent, looking forward to playing with your new mad-scientist creations! Until then you have to rest on your vacation!

Using an iPad is resting.

OT: Note that there are very many converted wave forms already made for Zebra.
Converted from many different hardware and software synths.
No need to recreate what's already there, just the ones that aren't.
http://www.u-he.com/PatchLib/zebra.html#mseg

[pdxindy]

we'll be working on higher resolution wavetables, wavetable/sample import, wave<->spline / wave<->spectrum conversion etc. etc. for some of the next updates. Whatever makes those oscillators happy, makes us happy

Sounds excellent, looking forward to playing with your new mad-scientist creations! Until then you have to rest on your vacation!

Using an iPad is resting.

OT: Note that there are very many converted wave forms already made for Zebra.
Converted from many different hardware and software synths.
No need to recreate what's already there, just the ones that aren't.
http://www.u-he.com/PatchLib/zebra.html#mseg

that is not OT

[mcnoone]

we'll be working on higher resolution wavetables, wavetable/sample import, wave<->spline / wave<->spectrum conversion etc. etc. for some of the next updates. Whatever makes those oscillators happy, makes us happy

Sounds excellent, looking forward to playing with your new mad-scientist creations! Until then you have to rest on your vacation!

Using an iPad is resting.

OT: Note that there are very many converted wave forms already made for Zebra.
Converted from many different hardware and software synths.
No need to recreate what's already there, just the ones that aren't.
http://www.u-he.com/PatchLib/zebra.html#mseg

that is not OT

It is if you want it to be.
ON TOPIC

[trance_lucent]

However, we'll be working on higher resolution wavetables

Wow! I'll be able to import these Virus waveforms without detail loses at last!

To speak about multi-dimension waveforms. Osc FX modulating can add dimensions, of course. But most of FX not so convenient for it because they greatly modifying spectrum brightness. So there is no just motion in result, but also sort of "filtering".

Urs, any chance to get more of phase-modulating FX? I.e. something like Symmetry, but with several modulated points contrapting/stretching waveform between? It would add motion to waveform without big spectrum brightness changes.

Or may be phase-modulation FX with side chain? So one osc phase-modulated with another osc will be possible.

[pdxindy]

we'll be working on higher resolution wavetables, wavetable/sample import, wave<->spline / wave<->spectrum conversion etc. etc. for some of the next updates. Whatever makes those oscillators happy, makes us happy

Sounds excellent, looking forward to playing with your new mad-scientist creations! Until then you have to rest on your vacation!

Using an iPad is resting.

OT: Note that there are very many converted wave forms already made for Zebra.
Converted from many different hardware and software synths.
No need to recreate what's already there, just the ones that aren't.
http://www.u-he.com/PatchLib/zebra.html#mseg

that is not OT

It is if you want it to be.
ON TOPIC

Ha!

[mcnoone]

Wow! I'll be able to import these Virus waveforms without detail loses at last!

There is a set of Virus waveforms on the U-he patch-lib.
Forget how many though.
Check it out...some classic analogue ones too.