Mac users, need your opinion please.
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
if I were in your shoes I would get the refurbished MacPro preferably with SL on it, actually. I like the ideas of Lion but I personally wouldn't want a change for all sorts of reasons.
refurbished bare bones and filling it up with RAM yourself will be far far far less expensive than allowing Apple to gouge you on that RAM.
refurbished bare bones and filling it up with RAM yourself will be far far far less expensive than allowing Apple to gouge you on that RAM.
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- KVRist
- 181 posts since 12 Mar, 2010 from Leeds, UK
If you're buying a MacPro wouldn't it be worth paying for the upgrade to Logic 9 also.
Awesome machine so run a 64-Bit DAW on it.
Awesome machine so run a 64-Bit DAW on it.
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- Topic Starter
- 9890 posts since 14 Nov, 2006
Thanks again everyone! I believe I am going with the refurb tower as I feel I do have to think in the short term somewhat so I can finish some existing projects. 
plus, i have no need for 64 bit yet and this need for a new machine could have come a little later which would have worked out better. but hey, that's the breaks. just need a machine that i can open existing Logic Express 8 projects so I can finish them. I know I will get that by getting the refurb tower.
after that i can worry about a longer term solution and Lion will probably be more stable, there will be more (and hopefully cheaper) thunderbolt devices, etc.
If the mods would like to lock this for janitorial purposes, no problem. Or people can keep posting. Either way.
But I have my mind made up at this point, just needed KVR's input so I'd have someone else to blame in case it blows up in my face.

Srsly, thanks to all who participated for your feedback and input.
well, a refurb for less than half the price with a 3 yr warranty from a reputable local dealer I have dealt with for repairs for several years. i don't have the money for a new one, and actually it will be even less $$ than the Mac Mini server. plus when you consider i will need a new interface and possibly Logic 9 if I went the Mac mini route, this makes sense for me in the here and now.qube123 wrote:If you're buying a MacPro wouldn't it be worth paying for the upgrade to Logic 9 also.
Awesome machine so run a 64-Bit DAW on it.
plus, i have no need for 64 bit yet and this need for a new machine could have come a little later which would have worked out better. but hey, that's the breaks. just need a machine that i can open existing Logic Express 8 projects so I can finish them. I know I will get that by getting the refurb tower.
after that i can worry about a longer term solution and Lion will probably be more stable, there will be more (and hopefully cheaper) thunderbolt devices, etc.
If the mods would like to lock this for janitorial purposes, no problem. Or people can keep posting. Either way.
But I have my mind made up at this point, just needed KVR's input so I'd have someone else to blame in case it blows up in my face.
Srsly, thanks to all who participated for your feedback and input.
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- KVRist
- 181 posts since 12 Mar, 2010 from Leeds, UK
Where can you get a refurb Pro for less than a new Mini Server? I'll upgrade my 2008 Pro if so.
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- Topic Starter
- 9890 posts since 14 Nov, 2006
Well, it IS in the US, so it may not be such a great deal for those outside the US... ymmv.qube123 wrote:Where can you get a refurb Pro for less than a new Mini Server? I'll upgrade my 2008 Pro if so.
http://www.lacomputercompany.com/cgi-bi ... group=clst
the refurb Mac Pros are listed about half way down the page.
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- KVRAF
- 6482 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
The refurb tower is a solid choice IMHO. Mainly because, although you can't upgrade the processors, it's a piece of cake to upgrade the RAM and the disk drives, which is often all you need to extend the life of an old machine. You can slap a new hard drive into the tower in about two minutes and the memory upgrade doesn't take much longer.
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- KVRist
- 181 posts since 12 Mar, 2010 from Leeds, UK
can't see what year those Pro's are. guessing 2006 - 2008
that right?
that right?
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- 9890 posts since 14 Nov, 2006
actually the guy I talked to said you could upgrade the processor, but it's somewhat cost prohibitive and done as a third party/underground market type thing. probably not a consideration though, even a 2.0 Ghz quad core would represent a pretty fair jump in performance for me over the 2 Ghz Gore Duo in my old Mac Book.Gamma-UT wrote:The refurb tower is a solid choice IMHO. Mainly because, although you can't upgrade the processors, it's a piece of cake to upgrade the RAM and the disk drives, which is often all you need to extend the life of an old machine. You can slap a new hard drive into the tower in about two minutes and the memory upgrade doesn't take much longer.
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- KVRAF
- 6482 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
I didn't realise that had started up again. It used to be quite common in the 90s when Apple was really in trouble and very slow to update their machines. But I thought it had all died out since then. If the rumours are true and Apple kills off the Mac Pro line, it'll probably get a lot more commonplace.debra1rlo wrote:actually the guy I talked to said you could upgrade the processor, but it's somewhat cost prohibitive and done as a third party/underground market type thing. probably not a consideration though, even a 2.0 Ghz quad core would represent a pretty fair jump in performance for me over the 2 Ghz Gore Duo in my old Mac Book.Gamma-UT wrote:The refurb tower is a solid choice IMHO. Mainly because, although you can't upgrade the processors, it's a piece of cake to upgrade the RAM and the disk drives, which is often all you need to extend the life of an old machine. You can slap a new hard drive into the tower in about two minutes and the memory upgrade doesn't take much longer.
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- KVRist
- 181 posts since 12 Mar, 2010 from Leeds, UK
It's a good price. I have a 2008 2xquad 2.8GHz machine. 10GB RAM.debra1rlo wrote:yes, that's what the sales guy said.qube123 wrote:can't see what year those Pro's are. guessing 2006 - 2008
that right?
With RAID or SSD drives it's still quite fast.
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- Topic Starter
- 9890 posts since 14 Nov, 2006
update: took a month of waiting for my tax return but I got the refurb Mac Pro and I am happy with my choice so far. save for a couple of reauthorization issues on plug ins, I'm back up and running and faster than before. did some recording yesterday and i purposefully used a bunch of plugs that gave me cpu issues in the past and the cpu meters didn't move much on this machine. nice. 
thanks again everyone for your input
and yes, i got the 3 yr warranty too so consider this topic closed until 2015.
thanks again everyone for your input
and yes, i got the 3 yr warranty too so consider this topic closed until 2015.

