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BERFAB · Post by **BERFAB** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:49 pm

Padshop's got some great sounds. Nice full pads of all kinds are represented in the presets. My only gripe is that I really can't find any quick way to page through the presets for auditioning.

Alchemy, on the other hand has a nice browser that allows for a faster browsing experience. It also has some beautiful pad capabilities, but also does so much more, as has been noted here.

I'm a preset guy. I occasionally will tweak stuff, but I invest my time in browsing/auditioning, not creating. 99% of the time someone has either nailed or come very close to the sound in my head. Leaves me more time to play. Padshop adds a nice new collection of colors to the crayon box.

Cheers
-B

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:24 pm

lightsfadelow wrote:Well... Alchemy may be great but it costs five times as much as Padshop. At least in the US.

Also, as an Alchemy user, I haven't heard it make the kinds of sounds that are all over the PadShop demos.

V'ger · Post by **V'ger** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:36 am

Giusmex wrote:downloaded

Hm it's weird as on Steinberg Padshop's page there is a tab for "Specs and Download" but without any downloads..

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:39 am

V'ger wrote:
Giusmex wrote:downloaded
Hm it's weird as on Steinberg Padshop's page there is a tab for "Specs and Download" but without any downloads..

What are you hoping to download? The Cubase updates are always on the Support/Downloads page.

ph0bic · Post by **ph0bic** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:54 am

lightsfadelow wrote:I wonder if the reason it's $50 is because they want to sell sound sets for it and preventing sample import is their way of preserving the razor blade - razor style business.

+1
I think the clue is in the title of the VST:
Pad'SHOP'

My guess is that they will follow the NI model and release products/preset/sample packs based on the engine (as with Kontakt/Reaktor etc.), which ties into the low initial price. If so I think it's a great marketing move, as it highlights their product, creates continuous interest with new pack releases, while promoting Cubase and Cubase Artist (which it is also included with). Others have rightfully posted that Alchemy can do everything here and more which I agree with, but at 5 times the price, there is always going to be a market for them both. The truth is that Padshop provides a cheap entry into granular synthesis (although you can probably pick up a copy of Reaktor in the marketplace for not much more these days, and Absynth for probably less!).

V'ger · Post by **V'ger** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:49 am

bduffy wrote:
V'ger wrote:
Giusmex wrote:downloaded
Hm it's weird as on Steinberg Padshop's page there is a tab for "Specs and Download" but without any downloads..
What are you hoping to download?

A demo would be a typical thing to have in the download section of a synth's product page, wouldn't you say?

lotus2035 · Post by **lotus2035** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:39 am

ph0bic wrote:
lightsfadelow wrote:I wonder if the reason it's $50 is because they want to sell sound sets for it and preventing sample import is their way of preserving the razor blade - razor style business.
+1
I think the clue is in the title of the VST:
Pad'SHOP'

I presumed it was Pads-Hop, as in: "Yo dawg, these pads be hoppin' yawl".

ph0bic · Post by **ph0bic** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:09 pm

lotus2035 wrote:
ph0bic wrote:
lightsfadelow wrote:I wonder if the reason it's $50 is because they want to sell sound sets for it and preventing sample import is their way of preserving the razor blade - razor style business.
+1
I think the clue is in the title of the VST:
Pad'SHOP'
I presumed it was Pads-Hop, as in: "Yo dawg, these pads be hoppin' yawl".

Don't think many Germans say "Yawl"

coops2 · Post by **coops2** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:13 pm

VST3 only and Win7 only too by the look of it

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:17 pm

ahhh crap didnt see win7 only, got XP still......

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:30 pm

VST3... yep, also because it's supporting Note Expression which is a VST3 only thing.
There are vocals, multi-saw waves and stuff included and this is IMO not bad for the first time.
Steinberg knows about the wish to import samples, so I expect it will be supported in the future but this doesn't mean that Padshop is unusable because it doesn't allow own samples this time.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:57 pm

coops2 wrote:VST3 only and Win7 only too by the look of it

Cubase 6.5 is supposed to be Win 7 only, as well, yet many people report it working well in XP.

Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:01 pm

Uncle E wrote:
coops2 wrote:VST3 only and Win7 only too by the look of it
Cubase 6.5 is supposed to be Win 7 only, as well, yet many people report it working well in XP.

I'm using 6.0.5 here on XP and everythinbg works perfectly

Cubase has been Win7 only since version 6.0.0.

Cheers
Dennis

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:57 pm

V'ger wrote:
bduffy wrote:
V'ger wrote:
Giusmex wrote:downloaded
Hm it's weird as on Steinberg Padshop's page there is a tab for "Specs and Download" but without any downloads..
What are you hoping to download?
A demo would be a typical thing to have in the download section of a synth's product page, wouldn't you say?

Yeah, I totally agree.

grymmjack · Post by **grymmjack** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:41 pm

Is padshop available outside of cubase? Thought I read here $99 or something street price? Haven't been spammed by the usual suspects in email about the offering however. I'd be curious to give this a go and see how it stacks up to some reaktor ensembles, and the monolake max4live thingy, and last but certainly not least maelstrom.