Studio One sounds better, thanks to... It just does.

[SJ_Digriz]

It's not rocket science, really...

Isn't that axiomatically obvious?

[Cordelia]

Sonar, cubase, and live have all made blurbs in the past that their host sound better (oooo sorry, live said "better fidelity"......don't want to get chastised for that again )

You were chastised? For misreading the Ableton marketing copy? Or for...?
By whom?
How long ago was that?

[dreamkeeper]

It's not rocket science, really...

Isn't that axiomatically obvious?

I think it's obviously axiomatic.

[lightsfadelow]

Wolfgang: can you please confirm Studio One does this?

The question is, is PreSonus an honest enough company to be willing to tell a large part of their userbase that their ears are, in fact, lying to them*? Some of the developer-run companies do (hello, Gol!) but larger companies seem to have marketing departments that would crucify anyone who perpetrates truth.

* Studio One sounds exactly as good as it should. Much like all the rest. The lie is that it sounds inherently better due to Mysterious Process X

+1. I know that Cubase engineers have come out and said this in their forums.

[Sascha Franck]

but the Mcgurk effect suggests the ears do,

Wow, thanks for posting that video. I never heard about that effect before and I was completely baffled when watching it.

Need to save that for future reference.

- Sascha

[hibidy]

+1. I know that Cubase engineers have come out and said this in their forums.

If memory serves me correct, cubey was the one that said "warmest".

[braj]

marketing guy ................ talking about something he's clueless about

Isn't that the #1 skill required for that job?

But, I think you guys need to cut him some slack. He's just a guy writing on his own forum. I doubt very seriously he understood the context of his comment.

He is a marketing rep for the company posting on a company blog! Trying to make it sound like he is just some independent schmo is also part of his disingenuousness. Honesty is the best policy and I don't think this was honest at all. Like someone else said, he basically blames the readers for misunderstanding his 'honest' statement. Not that this is the developers that are at fault, but the company as a whole has to be responsible for what they, through whatever agents in their company, post on their company blog.

[MaxSynths]

@DAW developers:

Who knows... maybe a host can be more performant than another with realtime processing? (push in this direction )

[dalor]

It's the misperception of marketing that's the real issue.

the issue was a marketing guy who started talking about something he's clueless about, but something that makes sense in the strange world of marketing where everything that seems to be usable as an advantage, will be used, without thinking too far ahead

Talking about marketing, hasn't Dr Drum made the news here yet?
It's the crap DubTurbo guys at it again:

now THAT is the fugly side of marketing. It's all there, paid views, filtered comments, youtube spamming, porn-like website.. (& as for the marketing lies, it's a good laugh on the website)
The only thing they can't lock are the "don't like", so use your power

Is this video even 'legal'? The amount of mis-information and bull is seriously beyond the red mark! Aren't there laws for this type of bullshit? If not, don't we need some?

[Aiynzahev]

I have some kind of hardware conflict in Studio One with my midi keyboard and Komplete Audio whereas Cubase 5LE works fine in this area. I'd considered Cubase 6 elements but I noticed that Cubase is 32bit float whereas Studio One is 64bit.

What practical difference does this make? Couldn't this contribute to a better sound if the processing is more accurate? Any developers got some in-sight?

[nix808]

IIRC,
the noise floor is lower,
so if u accidentally recorded too low, then normalized,
it a great power less noise with the 64-bit.

[hibidy]

That drdrum vidy is so wrong I couldn't make it all the way through.

[Dean Aka Nekro]

When I read the topic off this thread I thought:
Then I read the content of this thread and decided that the best policy on this matter is simply:
And besides at the end of the day: A FACT! *Unless due to medical reasons You came out via a C-Section*
Its ridiculous bullshit, I find the frequency of how often this bullshine arises quite frankly astounding! Still I could not damned well help myself from reading, Worse still damned well posting though! So A bloody fine one to talk. I curse Myself as a complete Idiot EVERYTIME and currently FWIW I am doing just that...AGAIN + Its the daft swine that agrees with the Presonus employee's blog post which is the most worrying and to quote a tennis legend "You Can NOT be Serious?" reaction.
However Pough, EvilDragon amongst others set things straight
...And I think to Myself What a wonderful (virtual) world

Dean

[Aiynzahev]

IIRC,
the noise floor is lower,
so if u accidentally recorded too low, then normalized,
it a great power less noise with the 64-bit.

Thanks, well if they don't sort out this problem I may have to jump ship. Its funny how we all take to different DAWs, Cubase was the first one I really learned and I have kept an eye on it for years and nearly bought it a few times. It looks good at the moment and gives a lot more options than s1.

[tony tony chopper]

Who knows... maybe a host can be more performant than another with realtime processing? (push in this direction HiHi)

FL Studio is faster than time. Thanks to.. I wrote it on a post-it but I lost it

Yes, you actually WIN CPU by processing in FL. Deep Blue was actually just a ZX Spectrum running several FLs daisy-chained.