KVR Audio

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:08 am

I'm outta the race.

@ Simon

This is why I value your stuff I have

I going with something very pricey I have put off for a long time. I want the rhythmic movements.

When iris gets there, I'll give it another round of consideration.

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:23 am

hibidy wrote:I'm outta the race.

@ Simon This is why I value your stuff I have

I going with something very pricey I have put off for a long time. I want the rhythmic movements.

When iris gets there, I'll give it another round of consideration.

I read your Omni thread - good luck with it

TabSel · Post by **TabSel** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:24 am

What do you get instead?

Proxima4 · Post by **Proxima4** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:47 am

Didn't like my first impressions sound wise, lacking in depth to my ears.

To me it's an instrument for sound design rather than playing straight, I couldn't see myself making a patch for a base, but then again, I'm sure it's capeable of deep growly sounds after some patch building.

I kind of see it fitting in between Absynth and Cameleon 5000/Alchemy.

The trouble with sonogram spectral morphing synthesis is it always has a trace of sibilance in the sound, which I don't like.

I couls see myself sitting for half an hour making one patch, and still not being happy.

It's different, future versions of it will be better I'm sure with more effects and modulations, a synth like this that could make patches in SFZ or multi sample mode for export would be brilliant.

I already came to the conclusion, the sounds from IRIS would be great on export to another sampler.

However this is after a 30 minute session, so my conclusions are not final.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:58 am

so what i dont like is that you cannot synchronize 2 samples with playback thats somehow fiddly adjust both looppoints exactly with crossfades, i considered buying it but without this crucial option it's out.

ariston · Post by **ariston** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:16 am

Caine123 wrote:so what i dont like is that you cannot synchronize 2 samples with playback thats somehow fiddly adjust both looppoints exactly with crossfades, i considered buying it but without this crucial option it's out.

I don't understand what you mean by "synchronize" two samples. What are you trying to do? They are always synchronized, unless you use the playback delay option.

My guess is that you're trying to achieve something where Iris is probably not your best option.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:32 am

ariston wrote:
Caine123 wrote:so what i dont like is that you cannot synchronize 2 samples with playback thats somehow fiddly adjust both looppoints exactly with crossfades, i considered buying it but without this crucial option it's out.
I don't understand what you mean by "synchronize" two samples. What are you trying to do? They are always synchronized, unless you use the playback delay option.

My guess is that you're trying to achieve something where Iris is probably not your best option.

hmmmm i mean for example i got 2 samples 1 is 30 secs the other 20 secs and i take:

1. sample: 4 secs part in the middle of it and let it crossfaded so there is a nice blend bwd/forward played.

2. sample: i use the whole lower part (painted) and let 10 seconds continuosly played forward.

not i want that those 2 are played endlessly when i hit a button without a gap.
so it gets maybe a soundscape without hearing any end.

ariston · Post by **ariston** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:43 am

Caine123 wrote: hmmmm i mean for example i got 2 samples 1 is 30 secs the other 20 secs and i take:

1. sample: 4 secs part in the middle of it and let it crossfaded so there is a nice blend bwd/forward played.

2. sample: i use the whole lower part (painted) and let 10 seconds continuosly played forward.

not i want that those 2 are played endlessly when i hit a button without a gap.
so it gets maybe a soundscape without hearing any end.

Ah, I see. Well, without the time stretching, you're going to have to do this a different way. One "easy" workaround is to just use longer samples. This isn't suitable for percussive material, but you can always stretch that elsewhere.

I've been playing around yesterday, stretching a few samples with Paulstretch and then loading them into Iris.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:00 am

ariston wrote:
Caine123 wrote: hmmmm i mean for example i got 2 samples 1 is 30 secs the other 20 secs and i take:

1. sample: 4 secs part in the middle of it and let it crossfaded so there is a nice blend bwd/forward played.

2. sample: i use the whole lower part (painted) and let 10 seconds continuosly played forward.

not i want that those 2 are played endlessly when i hit a button without a gap.
so it gets maybe a soundscape without hearing any end.
Ah, I see. Well, without the time stretching, you're going to have to do this a different way. One "easy" workaround is to just use longer samples. This isn't suitable for percussive material, but you can always stretch that elsewhere.

I've been playing around yesterday, stretching a few samples with Paulstretch and then loading them into Iris.

hmmmmmm, thanks for the tip but that is really hindering the workflow in my opinion and makes this VERY potential product again with a downside

already few options which would make it a no brainer but i guess i will really wait till xmas and see if they implemented such functions, for me it's crucial and would make working with it so GREAT!

Conker · Post by **Conker** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:32 am

What they describe here

sounds a little like Harmor from Image-Line, which does that very well:

lionscub68 · Post by **lionscub68** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:39 pm

Here's a thought...
What's iZotope's resale policy?
Is their software NFR?

I'm like a few others in this string: not quite sure if Iris is gonna do it for me or not, yet it's still interesting enough to take the plunge.

I don't wanna be stuck with it if I decide it's not doing much for me & my toolbox in a month, and be out $149-$249.

jensa · Post by **jensa** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:09 pm

lionscub68 wrote:Here's a thought...
What's iZotope's resale policy?
Is their software NFR?

I'm like a few others in this string: not quite sure if Iris is gonna do it for me or not, yet it's still interesting enough to take the plunge.

I don't wanna be stuck with it if I decide it's not doing much for me & my toolbox in a month, and be out $149-$249.

It's here:

http://www.izotope.com/support/center/i ... d=2&id=277

In my opinion they've got one of the best license transfer policys in the industry when it comes to being a compromise between a company and the buyer.

"Users who have already transferred a particular product.
You may not purchase a product, transfer it to another user, then repurchase the same product and transfer it again."

No fee involved.

Breeze · Post by **Breeze** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:28 pm

While I'm finding it fun to play with, Iris definitely feels like a work in progress to me. Some FR's:

1. Separate filters for each section rather than one Global filter. This puts a real damper on filtering each sample separately. It also means that all the FX sends are PRE-filter unless you use the FX master mode, but then you lose the sends per sample. There should really be one filter per section with an envelope dedicated to each, with a pre/post selection for the sends.

2. Limited Modulation resources. More LFOs assignable to different parameters would be most welcome. It would also be nice to see LFOs affect shape positions and filtering intensity... maybe even groups of them...

3. Macro routines for drawing. For example, if you want to fade in drawn sections (cone shapes) it should be a macro allowing you to rubber-band select the start section to whatever point and execute a fade in from start to selection. It should also be possible to draw straight lines, and other geometrical shapes.

4. The ability to "feather" and create subtle fade in/out effects with the drawn shapes, anywhere and to whatever degree. Currently the method in point 3 is the only way to simulate this, but whatever the shape, whatever is drawn simply plays at full volume.

5. Save of filter patterns. I can see the reuse of certain patterns with different content, which currently means re-drawing them every time.

6. Import of graphic images as filter patterns, with full transform and editing capabilities. Of course

I really hope they don't take all our ideas and the put out a $999 version like someone else mentioned, although you have to admit, as much as it's infuriating, that it's not a bad commercial strategy...

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:48 pm

At the end of a studio day Iris is always welcome for a Space Jam, this time spectralizing one of my Chromaphone Demos:

TabSel · Post by **TabSel** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:25 pm

I hear a glitch at the Start of each Note you Play... Radius RT? Have you Not found a Way to prevent this? As Master of the Iris

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