Strings synthesizer

[himalaya]

I do indeed (and Diva too) just never had the time to get stuck in...

I'm still waiting for a bank from you.

Thank you. I'm closer to making it happen than before.

[pdxindy]

I do indeed (and Diva too) just never had the time to get stuck in...

I'm still waiting for a bank from you.

Thank you. I'm closer to making it happen than before.

cool! look forward to hearing what you come up with!

[Bronto Scorpio]

Thank you. I'm closer to making it happen than before.

It's about time
Looking forward to it

Cheers
Dennis

[Fritze]

I do indeed (and Diva too) just never had the time to get stuck in...

I'm still waiting for a bank from you.

Thank you. I'm closer to making it happen than before.

[Polybius]

I think divide-down osc is possible in Zebra though. You have 16 wavetables per osc correct? I made 2 patches in my latest soundbank, where i morphed 2 oscillators shapes across a wavetable, and assigned keyboard scale to the wavetable. Meaning that for each different key pressed along the range, you get a slightly different wave. So the lowest key is osc1, and the highest key across the range is osc2, and everything in between is a morphed version of the 2 osc's. I gave up in the end because I couldn't find enough information about this divide-down osc feature though.

Anyone care to elaborate on the possibility of this?

[hakey]

I think divide-down osc is possible in Zebra though.

The thing about divide down architecture is that all voices are derived from a single continuously running master oscillator. This means that all voices share a common phase relationship (some intervals will be perfect, some will cycle over longer periods). I'm fairly certain this can't be replicated or faked in Zebra.

Edit: we had a bit of a discussion about it here.

[Gonga]

Do any of you geniuses know whether this was the tech used in the Stringman and/or the Arp String Ensemble?

[hakey]

Do any of you geniuses know whether this was the tech used in the Stringman and/or the Arp String Ensemble?

Pretty much all string synths used divide down oscillators.

That's what the string synth sound is: DDO + rich chorus.

[hakey]

Here's an interesting read.

[Gonga]

Thanks, I truly appreciate it! Someone just was asking me a couple days ago and I wasn't sure.

[pdxindy]

Do any of you geniuses know whether this was the tech used in the Stringman and/or the Arp String Ensemble?

Pretty much all string synths used divide down oscillators.

That's what the string synth sound is: DDO + rich chorus.

They had to... too expensive otherwise.

[himalaya]

The thing about divide down architecture is that all voices are derived from a single continuously running master oscillator. This means that all voices share a common phase relationship (some intervals will be perfect, some will cycle over longer periods). I'm fairly certain this can't be replicated or faked in Zebra.

I think there's too much stress put on the actual divide-down bits and bobs. What helps to get 'that' sound is highly controllable EQ or a formant filter bank with a suitable chorus. If these can be designed to a high standard then I doubt that anybody will miss the specific key response, and phase relationships offered by divide-down technology in the mix, at least I wouldn't think so. This is even more clear once reverb, delay and phasing is applied to these string sounds (which it usually is).

Mind you, the 'naked' string sound is so gorgeous, as everyone knows. I no longer have much space for all my gear, but when i did I used to play my Solina and RS-202 side by side with no external effects. Such a lush (Solina) and raw (RS202) sound. Beautiful.

I have been trying to emulate my RS202 in Zebra today and so far have found that the EQ needs to offer a fuller spec, or a more complex formant filter bank in one module (see Amber). But since I'm still a total Zebra virgin I shouldn't voice what is missing as it may actually be there, perhaps available via several modules.

[3ee]

Several Osc modules did the trick for me
with phase reset on and precise phase offsets + volume blends.
Also modeled the waveform.

[Bronto Scorpio]

I have been trying to emulate my RS202 in Zebra today and so far have found that the EQ needs to offer a fuller spec, or a more complex formant filter bank in one module (see Amber).

The next version of Zebra will have a fully featured resonator module based on the polymoog resonator iirc

That's no excuse for you to wait for the next version for your bank though

Cheers
Dennis

[hakey]

I think there's too much stress put on the actual divide-down bits and bobs. What helps to get 'that' sound is highly controllable EQ or a formant filter bank with a suitable chorus.

Yep, you can make a patch that's close (I've heard Synth1 do a passable Solina sound).

But the DDO effect is definitely audible, and so replicating it is as important for an authentic string machine sound as, say, modelling various nonlinearities is in Diva.