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ddeez · Post by **ddeez** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:11 am

I'm unclear and would like to know details. Thanks.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:20 am

In Massive you cannot create your own wavetables. Case closed.

ddeez · Post by **ddeez** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:30 am

are there wavetables/sounds in massive that you can't get in zebra?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:53 am

I presume you could approximate them.

IIRC somebody made a Massive wavetable extraction Python script, so you could use that to get the WAVs of wavetables, then use wav2zebra to convert.

tectonica · Post by **tectonica** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:59 am

EvilDragon wrote:I presume you could approximate them.

IIRC somebody made a Massive wavetable extraction Python script, so you could use that to get the WAVs of wavetables, then use wav2zebra to convert.

hi,
thank you for your post, that sounds promising

! I never heard about the wav2zebra so far.
I googled for it and found this site:
http://sites.google.com/site/wav2zebra2/
is this the most recent version?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:20 pm

I guess? I dunno, never used it, just read about it.

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:32 pm

tectonica wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:I presume you could approximate them.

IIRC somebody made a Massive wavetable extraction Python script, so you could use that to get the WAVs of wavetables, then use wav2zebra to convert.
hi,
thank you for your post, that sounds promising ! I never heard about the wav2zebra so far.
I googled for it and found this site:
http://sites.google.com/site/wav2zebra2/
is this the most recent version?

I think so. You want the Java version as it has more features than the other. Unless you're dead set against installing Java i much recommend it over the other version.

Now i kinda regret i did the program as it takes away the instant feedback you get from editing the sound directly in Zebra2. And it encourages laziness over experimenting and learning. But at the time i wrote i only saw it as a solution to a problem.

tectonica · Post by **tectonica** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:02 pm

hi Jupiter8!
Thank you for your program and your help, I will try it this evening.
Did you try to contact Urs on implementing it directly into Zebra?
Thank you again!
best regards

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:20 pm

tectonica wrote:hi Jupiter8!
Thank you for your program and your help, I will try it this evening.
Did you try to contact Urs on implementing it directly into Zebra?
Thank you again!
best regards

Next non-maintenance update of Zebra will have wav import, I'm pretty sure!

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:32 pm

tectonica wrote:Did you try to contact Urs on implementing it directly into Zebra?

I was in contact with him during the development of the program but we never discussed that. I felt it was a bit above my level at the time and i personally thought it was better to have an external program (it was mainly a quick hack) for U-He's sake. He opened the door for wav import but if something didn't work as expected i would get the blame instead of him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plausible_deniability

It is easy to get caught up in feature creep once you allow for wav import. I've seen requests of Kontakt library import which IMO is totally out of the scope for Zebra.

If you go there,be prepared to go all the way. Zebra isn't a sampler and shouldn't be so in my opinion. Let it just be the worlds best synth,be content with that,that's not too bad. But it is fun!

And now it's coming officially anyways so it's all for the best.

PietW. · Post by **PietW.** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:11 pm

The Waves in Massive are from Galbanum. You can buy the Waves and with Wave2Zebra you can create your own Wavetables.

trance_lucent · Post by **trance_lucent** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:28 pm

I believe that Massive has higher resolution wavetables (samples per wavetable). But AFAIR Urs said that there will be higher resolution wavetables in one of the future Zebra updates.

Also using *morph modes gives you high resolution wavetables and true morphing capabilities, unlike most wavetable synthesizers including Massive.

bmrzycki · Post by **bmrzycki** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:03 pm

PietW. wrote:The Waves in Massive are from Galbanum. You can buy the Waves and with Wave2Zebra you can create your own Wavetables.

I've found the converted Zebra wavetable sounds appreciably different than the original .wav. That's not necessarily a bad thing but might be if the user expects this. I recommend downloading some of the demo waveforms from http://www.galbanum.com/products/archit ... forms2010/ and then converting with Wav2Zebra and seeing if you like the result.

The best bet IMO is to wait for Urs to do it right in Zebra next.

ddeez · Post by **ddeez** » Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:31 am

Urs wrote:
tectonica wrote:hi Jupiter8!
Thank you for your program and your help, I will try it this evening.
Did you try to contact Urs on implementing it directly into Zebra?
Thank you again!
best regards
Next non-maintenance update of Zebra will have wav import, I'm pretty sure!

Urs what's the timeline on this? That would probably push me to buy zebra

trance_lucent · Post by **trance_lucent** » Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:00 am

bmrzycki wrote:I've found the converted Zebra wavetable sounds appreciably different than the original .wav

I think that is because Zebra has relatively low resolution wavetables (128 samples per waveform).

u-he

KVR Audio

what are the differences in the wavetables in massive and the wavetable capabilities in zebra?