KVR Audio

3ee · Post by **3ee** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:25 pm

the 3D view is actually pretty CPU hungry .. better leave that off when working on a project. Eats up about 2% more on my Intel QuadCore.

Before turning it off try dragging on the display.. as well as right-click dragging.

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:38 pm

Well I have Blade and the demo didn't impress me either. When I actually bought it and got the 'full' version with all the presets and started using it, I was actually gobsmacked at what it could do. CPU wise about the same. Thanks for the tip on the 3D. Hypnotizing to watch but I'll take more CPU.

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:54 pm

The self-imposed guilt of enjoying several demos, Mikro Prism,
GR5 Player etc was too much, so after a few youtubes proved
convincing on the merits, I made the purchase.

Had to use offline registration,
as Service Center was totally confused

once again.
But it only takes a few clicks, if you've been through the drill,
and it takes the sometimes dubious tech support staff out of the equation.

The sounds are often wonderful, and I noticed one where
C and G have delightful artifacts and sonic tails,
while all the notes in between decisively lacked them,
same on each octave

So it has some curiosities to explore.

But the whole is really impressive and enjoyable to use.
I have enough change in the couch cushions and coffee cans,
to pick up Prizm at the same price, should NI be willing to expand a
good deal a bit further.

How about buy 4 Reaktor instruments at $40 each, to earn a free Reaktor 5?

szurcio · Post by **szurcio** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:08 am

Where can I download the demo of Razor? I've been trying to find it on the product page but I don't see it.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:02 am

there is no demo

3ee · Post by **3ee** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:04 pm

Since I'm reading the manual, I'll post interesting or not so obvious stuff here:

for example:

SafeBass: You can view the amount knob as the wet/dry mix of this "effect" so if bass level is set to minimum and the amount is set to max (wet) the fundamental will just disappear (well you can still see it a bit but not hear it

)

+ from the manual:

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(i)Start with full AMOUNT and set BASS LVL and SLOPE to your liking. If you want to bring back some of the partial amplitude changes from prior 'Safe Bass' reduce AMOUNT a bit.

(i)If the oscillators are pitched shifted with the RATIO control, the 'Safe Bass' signal can be used as an additional sub oscillator.

3ee · Post by **3ee** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:57 pm

Not in the manual but should be as a tip for the DUO SAW!

I find it a good idea to always try some key track mod for the beating parameter to reduce artifacts when you want a higher "detuning" effect.

For example Beating to 2.3 and key track mod to 19.

For less artifacts with lower notes, set quality to high and give a good amount of random phase until artifacts disappear.

3ee · Post by **3ee** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:27 pm

The Formant osc is a bit different than the rest.. it actually sounds different if loaded as the 1st osc or the 2nd. .. more in the manual...

Anyway, to check out the Waves, turn off osc1, load the Formant type into osc2.
Set the formant parameter to 0 (center), load key track mod for the formant and set to max.

Xenos · Post by **Xenos** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:44 pm

I just picked Razor up over the weekend and it definitely is a really nice instrument. Very different approach in may ways to other synths, but has a very simple design and is easy to learn. I'll be honest, I picked this up because of all the "dubstep hype", but find Razor's strength is more in chillout/ambient dub type sounds. Want hair-raising, bro-step wobbles that rape your ears? - Massive already covers that nicely. Want liquid and chilled sounds with a blissful couchlock effect? Definitely go with Razor.

snigelx · Post by **snigelx** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:56 pm

Thanks for the tip 3ee. IIRC it is Pitch Track you have to use to mod the formant shift in order to see the original waves of the Formant OSC. It's a special situation where it requires the actual pitch to be tracked and not only the MIDI note like is tracked with Key Track mod.

I do hope both you and Xenos assemble some snapshots for this one! I am loving it's sharpness and unique manner of synthesis, esp those dissonance effects!

3ee · Post by **3ee** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:06 pm

snigelx wrote:Thanks for the tip 3ee. IIRC it is Pitch Track you have to use to mod the formant shift in order to see the original waves of the Formant OSC. It's a special situation where it requires the actual pitch to be tracked and not only the MIDI note like is tracked with Key Track mod.

I do hope both you and Xenos assemble some snapshots for this one! I am loving it's sharpness and unique manner of synthesis, esp those dissonance effects!

hmm.. could be, don't know the difference yet. But seemed to work OK with the kb track mod also ... as when you set it to 100% it is programmed to act differently and "snap" precisely with the kb track.

Yes, I'm thinking to start working on a sound set for Razor, but 1st got to get it used a bit

snigelx · Post by **snigelx** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:18 pm

3ee wrote:hmm.. could be, don't know the difference yet. But seemed to work OK with the kb track mod also ... as when you set it to 100% it is programmed to act differently and "snap" precisely with the kb track.

I went back and read about the Pitch Track mod and it states... "...The main reason to have 'pitch track' extra to 'key track' is that the formant oscillator type needs 'pitch track' in order to get the original waveform regardless of pitch modulation." So I suppose you should use the Pitch Track IF you wish to keep the timbre of the original wave despite triggering different MIDI notes or pitch shifting within a patch.

Yes, I'm thinking to start working on a sound set for Razor, but 1st got to get it used a bit

Good to hear! I only just bought it myself, during the recent sale. Who could refuse this for 34Euro?? I am quite pleasantly surprised that it came with such a nice manual. I thought they did a decent job of explaining the architecture and various functionality. I would have been lost without help on the "sidechain" module's function. Which turns out is really nothing more than a tiny mod matrix, it would seem.

3ee · Post by **3ee** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:43 pm

snigelx wrote:I went back and read about the Pitch Track mod and it states... "...The main reason to have 'pitch track' extra to 'key track' is that the formant oscillator type needs 'pitch track' in order to get the original waveform regardless of pitch modulation." So I suppose you should use the Pitch Track IF you wish to keep the timbre of the original wave despite triggering different MIDI notes or pitch shifting within a patch.

Hey, good to know, thanks for the heads up!

3ee · Post by **3ee** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:15 am

Well how about that?!: Filter1, Lowpass Phaser - the barberpole rate is hardwired to LFO2's rate.

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Filter1 EQ Decay:

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Decay: Decay time scaling for the five frequency bands. If set to max the bands don't decay at all like in a normal EQ.

and if you pitchtrack the P.Offset parameter, EQ curve will follow keyboard.

Gonga · Post by **Gonga** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:02 am

I just noticed a new Razor update 1.3.0 released - recently?

Razor is still, as a once famous street-savvy producer said - "Wicked"