OXIUM -New Xils-lab synthesizer- [ Jp8 Comparison :) ]

[Lotuzia]

I say invest on purpose, because please understand that this would come at a non neglectable cost ( Due to our graphic technologies, time of development to code skins, and the fact that our graphic artist is independant ) we'll first have to see if Oxium is at least .... a bit successfull. ( Crossing fingers )

As I said in my PM I don't see how making a copy of the orange skin and then colorizing the few background pages would be that labor intensive. I could color all the background pages in just a matter of a few minutes. There's no need to create a whole new skin with new knobs, pages etc.

I've done this time and again with plugins that allow access to their graphics resource files (Rapture it the example I gave)and I'll gladly volunteer to do it for free with the Oxium background .pngs or .bmps. I can't imagine how much different Oxium's skinning system could be that it would require hours of work by a highly paid professional just to make a couple of color edits.

But if it can't be done then it can't be done.

Thanks for the offer Telsonik, its really appreciated.

Well as I said its not as easy as that I'm afraid, but, anyway, what I propose is that when the demo is out ( wich should be July 7th) everyone test the orange or grey skin, and see if they can work with it without eye fatigue ( so leaving the aesthetic side of things out of the eventual problem)

Then after this I'm confident a solution will be found ( and also theres a possibility that you wont like the synth that much so this has to be taken into consideration as well )

[Lotuzia]

A few additional Oxium clips :

CineMachine

If your 2 oscillator synth can't do this kind of patches, then it might be time to consider Oxium

Cream For Ears

Oxium can be very tender and delicate too.

Angel 5th

A grainy 5th Lead.

Y2K Lead

Is it already classic, or just dated ? You could hear this kind of sounds in the 90s and Y2K dance floors.

Planet Claire

Was discovered in the late 70s by the B52s. It also pictures the formant filter.



LtZ

[Teksonik]

and also theres a possibility that you wont like the synth that much so this has to be taken into consideration as well )

Well yes I am getting ahead of myself a bit. I may download the demo, delete it after half an hour and never give the synth another thought. But after listening to a few audio demos and checking out the specs I'm pretty sure that won't be the case. My only worry at this point is how my aging Quad Q6600 will hold up but it can take just about everything PolyAna can throw at it and not melt down so.....

But anyway I can work with the grey gui although I find it less pleasing than the other gui....if the other gui wasn't orange. In fact I'll probably use the Orange one for testing the demo and shut it down when my eyes start to fatigue.

Good to know there may be other choices in the future so now it's just wait a few days and give the demo a good workout.

[Lotuzia]

But anyway I can work with the grey gui although I find it less pleasing than the other gui....if the other gui wasn't orange. In fact I'll probably use the Orange one for testing the demo and shut it down when my eyes start to fatigue.

Good to know there may be other choices in the future so now it's just wait a few days and give the demo a good workout.

The release of the first demo version is ..... very very soon.

EDIT last minute : Maybe even today

The first demo version will include 62 presets, only made by 4 people. The July 21th final version will include around 250 instruments + the init patches, made by the whole Sound Design team.

It will also include 14 additional Init presets. Beside the traditional Init Saw preset, other init patches can be seen as tutorial patches or good start base for sound mangling.

Btw I just listened last night to the presets of Mr Soundsdivine, Simon, and wow there are some extraordinary instruments in this set : Instant mini electronic symphonies, instant movie visions.

The first demo version might also include the three additional Mono Legato modes. For obvious reasons, no existing presets will use this feature, but well it will be there, so that people can test it.

[Lotuzia]

While waiting for the release, a few additional audio clips :

Violins

Oxium is cool for semireal, hybrid, instruments too. This one uses the combination of the formant and main filters.

Epic Quest Pad

I used this pad, in a modified version, in the Women Dreams demo

90s Forest Parties

An electronic sequence using Le Masque to control various aspects of the sound.

Funky Lines

Meaty sound for funky lines

Contour Keys

Contour keys featuring the double filter. This one is the first wet clip, I added a light reverb on it, its just to be sure that Oxium "captures" well the reverbs. Seems to do it I'll post a few other wet clips later


Note : If you're interested, You can listen to all the other audio demos in the third post of this thread.
LtZ

[chuck death]

Another new Xils lab product, another overhyped piece by Lotuzia proclaiming everything is amazing/innovative/new... After the le Masque thread I'd hoped you'd learnt to hold back a little but clearly not.

Just once, I'd like to see you describe a product as though you are talking to a fellow human being instead of a sales target...

[4damind]

Another new Xils lab product, another overhyped piece by Lotuzia proclaiming everything is amazing/innovative/new... After the le Masque thread I'd hoped you'd learnt to hold back a little but clearly not.

Just once, I'd like to see you describe a product as though you are talking to a fellow human being instead of a sales target...

I will not say that I like it if a product will be hyped long time before a release but in some parts I can understand this. The time isn't very easy to try to sell a product which is not completely different than others. Without forcing the interest very early they will not have many sales.
We will see if they have something on the table for testing if it was worth the time to fill this thread with demos and stuff or if it's another disappointment.

[chuck death]

I agree it's a tough time for sales but hardselling every aspect of a product is a terrible sales technique. The problem is, there are actually interesting and clever things in Xils lab products but they generally get completely lost in the white noise of Lotuzia's "everything is amazing" sales patter.

[Lotuzia]

Another new Xils lab product, another overhyped piece by Lotuzia proclaiming everything is amazing/innovative/new... After the le Masque thread I'd hoped you'd learnt to hold back a little but clearly not.

Just once, I'd like to see you describe a product as though you are talking to a fellow human being instead of a sales target...

Youre right, hundreds of people think Le Masque is worth it. One of them expressed this in this thread btw. And the CM review says that "it might be the best 59€ you can spend this year" for "an extranordinary creative tool" or something like that. And I can imagine that the CM guys see a lot of plugs passing. But eventually less informed than some other people ( or better : We send them camels to pay for good reviews. How's that ? )

Now I just visited a BIG dev site saying that they have a revolutionnary synthesizer ( revolution of two years ago ) and another one who claims they have the best analog synthesizers. You shoud visit the internet sometimes, its fully worth it.

OK, lets redo the pitch :

" Oxium is a more than average synthesizer, its sounds average, looks average, and the price is average ( well at least this is true )

It wont bring anything new to your sonic arsenal, and honnestly, arent you bored to demo synths that just dont bring anything new on the table ?

It has the same Le Masque Modulator that you can find on all synths, the same flower design for oscillators, the same boring 3rd generation zero-delay-feedback filters, self oscillating in all modes, that every feebie has, its cumulative waveforms oscillators you can find everywhere, and its unfortunately the same for the cumulative waveforms LFO. THe info pane wich give you a summary of all that happens in a patch has been seen for ages, and the vintage BBD Chorus is just an acceptable one. The double flexible filter structure could eventually be noticed but ........ etc etc.

And more than all that, their boring rep just spams our beloved forum, while pretending it can make some sound, and even not giving examples of that. Wich I see as totally dishonnest ........

This was an human speaking to humans"

Feel better now ?

[ChiTown24]

demodemodemodemodemodemodemodemodemodemodemodemodemo plz kthxbai

[Lotuzia]

btw a few more audio clips.


Masked Peaches

In this patch I just hold a bass note then played the hi notes, while from times to times moving the Mod Wheel on the attack of ni notes to give the effect. All other modulations are handled by Le Masque.

CS Pad -Wet-

The most cheesy - like in Feta- cover of a well know theme. This one is wet with a reverb added.

Melodic Keys

As the tiltle says.

Funky Pulse

Simple Funky Bass

LtZ

[ChiTown24]

waiting for the demo till i can patch some myself, but ive been disappointed with how thin on the ground the pad demos have been and havent been wowed by the few that have been posted.

maybe pads aren't a natural strength of this synth ? i thought with simon designing some factory presets that the pad content would be stronger ?

wow us with some pad demos Lotuzia

[HcDoom]

I never understood why every god damn demo sound/preset of some new synth has to sound like an old crap analog synth from 1973? I am personally fed up with those sounds. Give me something modern sounding, something different, something innovative, prove me that I can stand out from the rest of the crowd with your synth.

[Lotuzia]

waiting for the demo till i can patch some myself, but ive been disappointed with how thin on the ground the pad demos have been and havent been wowed by the few that have been posted.

maybe pads aren't a natural strength of this synth ? i thought with simon designing some factory presets that the pad content would be stronger ?

wow us with some pad demos Lotuzia

Hmmm the small clips only use my presets because these are the only ones I had for a while. So maybe you're not after the kind of pads I design, or the way I use them (or both ). I discussed this a bit while chatting with a Swedish friend two days ago, and he said that he found the pads gorgeous and "very precise". ( he's all in the chill out/ambient/lounge vibe to be honnest ) Well anyway Simon did some awsome pads, as usual,including a massive Trancy Pad wich I found was exactly what I heard in many similar productions, and other SDs has done some wonderfull ones too.

Then all the pads examples are dryn without reverb. Adding reverb can be indeed a good idea when you'll review the pads.

The final factory library will include many pads, as you could expect, then you'll see. Also with the demo you will be able to craft your own ones. Also a very good way to figure out if Oxium can serve you well in this particular domain.

LtZ

[Lotuzia]

I never understood why every god damn demo sound/preset of some new synth has to sound like an old crap analog synth from 1973? I am personally fed up with those sounds. Give me something modern sounding, something different, something innovative, prove me that I can stand out from the rest of the crowd with your synth.

Well, easy young padawan, we'll have some other demos in the future. And I'm sure some more modern ones.

This said :

1/ Modern music can be made with ancient instruments. As an example, guitars and pianos are not really 2012, and you can still do modern music with them ( yes you can); and in many rnb/mainstream productions, movie music, etc I cant say that I'm striked by new instruments, but more by the way they are used, or the production.

2/ So some people want/desire/need these kind of instruments, maybe not you, but they should be part of the factory content of a synthesizer.

3/ In the 90s when electronic music took a new start, what did young people do ? they refused digital synthesizers, took vintage machines ( mainly analog ones) and used them in a new way ( or a way they thought was new, because T dream, Kraftwerk and many other has explored many ways before also ). So nothing is that clear, things are rarely black and white.


Anyway like I said there will be more demos, different demos, and the best thing : You'll soon be able to try the demo and see for yourself.