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MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:17 pm

And i did not realize that my email via this forum was disabled, sorry. It's enabled now.

fluffy_little_something · Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:01 pm

I just finished doing my first patterns, sounds great. I did not even use any compressors or other effects, yet. I am impressed, despite 8 tracks no cracking or other unwanted sounds

I deliberately made it quite dense, still, very clean and transparent sound.

One thing I have not figured out yet: Say, I put a brass sound pretty much at the end of a pattern so that it would last way into the next pattern (if there were one, but there isn't because of the loop). How do I make the sound continue into the beginning of the very same pattern at whose end it has started? Like the snake biting its own tail so to speak

So far the sound gets axed once the end of the pattern is reached...

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:04 pm

Make the part longer.

fluffy_little_something · Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:38 pm

Doesn't really work the way I thought it would...
No problem, I will think of a workaround tomorrow

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:37 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:Doesn't really work the way I thought it would...

Why not?

fluffy_little_something · Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:57 am

Well, if like yesterday in my first little recording session I have several tracks of the same length, say from 1 to 8, and I want to add a bell with a long release time or of long musical duration pretty much at the end of the 8th bar, it gets cut off, it does not carry over to the beginning of the first bar. When I extend that one track to 9 or 10, the bell still gets cut off unless I move the end of loop marker to 9 or 10, in which case I hear 1 or 2 bars of silence for the remaining tracks. There should be a kind of wrap option or one to manually exclude notes extending beyond the limit from the darker shaded gray area when double-clicking a part to zoom in.

I hope you understand what I mean, English is not my mother tongue and it is a bit complicated to explain

By the way, did I just miss it or is there no virtual mixing console with equalizers and stuff? Is Session -> Mixdown Audio all it takes to do the mixing? Equalizers are an important tool to separate instruments from each other in conventional mixing...

> DiGiT < · Post by **> DiGiT <** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:00 pm

yeah man wheres the mixer and the eq? did you forget to put those in there jo? wait whats this? racks?

AndreasD · Post by **AndreasD** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:05 pm

About mixing console, EQ, etc.
Nothing is predefined in Mulab. You have to insert the effects you need by yourself. There are filter, eq, compressor, channel strip patches in the Effects folder. Just select and put them in the racks. This way you have more control over the effect sequence.
If one rack is not enough, you can send the output of one rack to the next and add more effects in the second rack.
Note the little triangle in the rack, which put rack slots pre or post fader.

edit: you beat me DiGiT

fluffy_little_something · Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:37 pm

I know all that

I just thought it would be nice to have a conventional mixing console interface. When I add a 4-band equalizer to each track, and have them all open in order to mix all tracks in parallel, it gets quite chaotic on the screen. So I thought it would be nice if there were an equalizer view for each rack, similar to the way one can switch back and forth between expanded and reduced version of the rack. In the equalizer view there would be a column of little equalizer knobs to the left additionally to the effects column of the familiar reduced view, which would now consist of knobs to regulate the levels of the associated effect.

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:34 pm

You can save a set up as your "New.MuSession" so you get exactly the layout you're happy with every time. Or you could set up several template sessions for different times. You can also embed Racks in MuXes if you want to do clever things and reduce clutter. And embed plugins with their shallow view open in a MuX deep view... and many other things. But it's down to you to decide how you feel you work most effectively.

fluffy_little_something · Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:47 pm

Well, I am old and old-fashioned

I think after decades of usage there might be a number of good reasons why mixing consoles are the way they are, i.e. because they make sense they way they are.
I have drawn a modified rack, but this crappy forum software does not allow me to upload images

But this is all just unimportant stuff, it's more important now to remove any remaining bugs from Mulab and the VST and to implement multi-core support.

> DiGiT < · Post by **> DiGiT <** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:07 pm

you have a point with the clutter issue and the lack of a simple way to view things without prior organizational setup... in the meantime, there is a 'channel strip' preset

mux vst is very new and would have bugs. i think jo deserves some slack, considering. mulab doesnt crash or perform badly in my experience.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:14 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:it's more important now to remove any remaining bugs from Mulab

Which MuLab bugs?

fluffy_little_something · Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:27 am

mutools wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:it's more important now to remove any remaining bugs from Mulab
Which MuLab bugs?

Like the loading bug. Yesterday I programmed a piano patch, can't open it anymore just like the MuDrum drumkit a few days ago. I suppose it might have to do with samples as in both cases it has happened to me so far, the patches included samples. Might also be coincidence, though

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:31 am

Ah that one, you're right.

It has been fixed in MuLab 4.3.7, see http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=354551

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