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Tp3 · Post by **Tp3** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:09 pm

Bought.

VERY handy.

I just wander how the results relate to non-repetitive music...

xamido · Post by **xamido** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:01 pm

Also bought the plugin here. Nice little useful plugin, since i do mostly edm stuff this thing will stay for a long time.

Dean Aka Nekro · Post by **Dean Aka Nekro** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:40 pm

Uncle E wrote:
skitchy wrote:@OP - Could you shed some light on the technique described in the article (without the plugin). I'd like to try it out the 'hard' way - if it works, I'll buy the plugin to simplify the process, but you don't learn anything that way
I'd like to know, too, given there's no Mac plug-in yet.

Eric I am a little dissapointed that You are a MAC user, You've gone right down in my estimations

Anyway joking aside thanks Ratthead for the heads up and Compyfox for those links, I do it by ear and doing it on a regular calculator...The scenic route basically, But kicking myself for not thunking to look for a calc that does it all for me already

Im so blonde sometimes

*but born with blue eyes and the blondest hair when it started growing that I can be excused, Its gone to a darker rusty brown over the years but it was all natural blonde*

Dean

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:26 pm

Doesn't mean that it's bad to know how to do it "without" tools. This is actually a strong point, Dean.

I also see a problem with non repeatative, non constant BPM material. Example: orchestra. Here, beat supporting reverb doesn't really work as the purpose of a reverb in this case is to model a certain room.

And IIRC, short pre-delay = large room and the other way around (if I'm not totally off).

Here is another post of interest with "fixed predelay" in orchestra productions:
http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/p/935 ... aspx#70078

Else, yes - the right delay setting (in ms) for reverb, no matter if it's long or short, can work wonders for an EDM production if you need a certain additional groove which you can not create through other means.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:33 pm

Dean Aka Nekro wrote:Eric I am a little dissapointed that You are a MAC user, You've gone right down in my estimations

I deserve that!

My laptop is a MacBook Air, my super dependable DAW I love dearly is still a PC and probably always will be. My next laptop will be a Surface Pro.

billcarroll · Post by **billcarroll** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:52 pm

Music Math is a free tool for the Mac that does various calculations based on tempo, as in delay for example.

http://lost-memories.com/softs/

There's also a free app for the iPhone called "DelayGenie"

Froqqer · Post by **Froqqer** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:04 pm

So how much of help is this plugin with mixing with headphones?

Rathead · Post by **Rathead** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:49 pm

Froqqer wrote:So how much of help is this plugin with mixing with headphones?

Actually, I still haven't gotten around to trying it on cans yet.
Others may comment.

As others have pointed out, the plugin is just a shorthand way to use the process, which itself is simple enough to understand.

There are links worth following in other posts here and I encourage you to read widely on the subject. No technique is universally applicable but if you can gain an understanding of what is going on then that WILL help you in every situation.

Rgds,
Rats Toboggan

skitchy · Post by **skitchy** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:56 pm

Rathead wrote:The test signal described is pink noise gated at tempo speed

Gated at what rate - eighth note? Thanks for the information

If you could upload a short clip of the sound it would be much appreciated. BTW I'm not being cheap, like I said I'd like to try doing it manually, then buy the plugin if it works for me.

PeterL · Post by **PeterL** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:28 am

Froqqer wrote:So how much of help is this plugin with mixing with headphones?

I think I have answered this on page 1 (see quote below).
It works well on speakers and headphones, could really improve your mix, not only for rhythm align also for finetuning the reverb settings.
I use this plugin infront of the reverb slot, switching it on for finetuning and off for hearing results. It's a quick helper to trim your reverb to your needs.
Maybe it's just subjective, but I really get better results.

PeterL wrote:It's an easy concept, but as promised by the developer you can hear clearly what every subtle parameter in a reverb does for easy understanding (maybe you could dump the manual of every complicate reverb now ).
It also works quite well on headphones.
I tested it so far just on EAReverb, but it is really a useful helper to set up predelay, BNCrate, BNCdepth according to the rhythm of the track without using a BPM calculator.

Froqqer · Post by **Froqqer** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:07 pm

Thanks mate.I'm going to try it out now and I will give some feedback after if it helps with my headphones.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:33 am

Anybody get this working in Ableton? Pressing the play button seems to do nothing.

xamido · Post by **xamido** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:44 am

Aloysius wrote:Anybody get this working in Ableton? Pressing the play button seems to do nothing.

i can also confirm that for you, it's not working on ableton live.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:45 am

xamido wrote:
Aloysius wrote:Anybody get this working in Ableton? Pressing the play button seems to do nothing.
i can also confirm that for you, it's not working on ableton live.

Damn it. Thanks.

I've emailed Stav to see what he can do.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:15 pm

Stavs Pulsed Pink Noise Generator Page has been updated (JUL-15-2012).

VST plugin works with ALL versions of Windows 32 & 64bit, but NOT with Ableton Live 8. Mac version not ready yet.

http://studiostav.com/products-page/

EDIT: Some GOOD NEWS ...

Daniel, this just in from my Codesmith:

"Looks like Ableton Live has a bug concerning VST plugins with only 1 mono audio output (no input).

Ableton Live produces no audio under these conditions.

Easy to implement a workaround and make a new version soon."

Daniel, you can post this on the forum if you like to let those concerned know what's up.
You'll be the first to know when it's ready.

Thanks, Stav

VST to aid in setting reverb - I bought it !