KVR Audio

jam92189 · Post by **jam92189** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:28 am

@Brian @ IK Multimedia
well personally I think the Ik stuff is amazing so I will defiantly be getting a good 3 plugins at least. But if I later want to maybe upgrade to a suite is there like a discount for the plugins I would already own by the time?

Brian @ IK Multimedia · Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:40 am

There is a $299.99 crossgrade for T-RackS 3 Deluxe. If you own any T-RackS Singles, you would qualify. Personally, I recommend getting one of the Singles which are not included in T-RackS 3 Deluxe, then getting the crossgrade for maximum bang for your buck. See if you like the Black 76, or White 2A... or wait to see what we have coming up next...

jam92189 · Post by **jam92189** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:54 am

Brian @ IK Multimedia wrote:There is a $299.99 crossgrade for T-RackS 3 Deluxe. If you own any T-RackS Singles, you would qualify. Personally, I recommend getting one of the Singles which are not included in T-RackS 3 Deluxe, then getting the crossgrade for maximum bang for your buck. See if you like the Black 76, or White 2A... or wait to see what we have coming up next...

ah that's what I love to see great tipson how to save. I did love those compressors I will do that for sure then. good customer relations opens our wallets so easy sometimes

but thanks for the tip then I will get the two compressors and after a little while I will probably upgrade.

Mercado_Negro · Post by **Mercado_Negro** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:21 am

Brian @ IK Multimedia wrote:Stillwell Vibe-EQ is a cool and funky little plugin, and the price is the real selling point. It definitely fills a niche for people starting out who want to learn the ropes and discover their style before investing too deeply in the tools. But if you are looking for a serious, authentic Pultec emulation, I think it's a pretty safe bet that it is not modeled on an actual hardware unit, which are quite rare and VERY expensive, if you could even find one for sale. And then true analog modeling requires specialized diagnostic test equipment and skillset to accurately translate that raw data into unique non-linear algorithms.

It's a shame you had to use all these adjetives, desguising your true purpose to sell your plug-ins, to bring the skills of the developer in question.

FYI, VibeEQ is not based on a Pultec-style equalizer. It's just an equalizer with color and curves based on the developer taste.

Brian, these kind of comments make IK Multimedia look really bad, consider your words before posting, please, it does more harm than good, in my opinion.

@thread: I'd take IK's pultec over any other emulation any day, count Waves, UAD and Softube, which are the ones I've tried.

sunny_j · Post by **sunny_j** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:28 am

afreshcupofjoe wrote:
sunny_j wrote: wow, just wow !! Waves SSl is what you call magic fary dust and mojo !! Please don't take it the wrong way, but.. wow !!
I'm a big fan of the SSL sound, much more so than the vintage stuff that people go gaga over. Andy Wallace is my favorite mix engineer and the Waves SSL simply nails the vibe that he gets from the channel strips on the SSL console. Some people like it; some people don't. I don't really care if it isn't your thing. My point is that the claim that the Waves stuff sounds just like every other EQ is bullshit. The SSL EQ sounds distinctively different, as well as the Softube Trident, some of the PSP stuff etc, etc. That is a FACT.

No, it's not. It is your opinion, not a FACT. But, to each their own..

Fact: Waves eq "vibe" is just the frequency curves. no harmonic non-linearities, not even correct phase response near nyquist. It's a "digital" eq that can be replicated easily.

If you like it, good for you, but if you'd like to research (I'm sure you'll say you don't have time for that etc etc

), you can look it up on the internet.

Again, not trying to be an ass here. Just wanted to let you know the truth

Cheers !

sunny_j · Post by **sunny_j** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:30 am

Brian @ IK Multimedia wrote:or wait to see what we have coming up next...

Interesting..

Brian @ IK Multimedia · Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:41 am

Mercado_Negro wrote:
Brian @ IK Multimedia wrote:Stillwell Vibe-EQ is a cool and funky little plugin, and the price is the real selling point. It definitely fills a niche for people starting out who want to learn the ropes and discover their style before investing too deeply in the tools. But if you are looking for a serious, authentic Pultec emulation, I think it's a pretty safe bet that it is not modeled on an actual hardware unit, which are quite rare and VERY expensive, if you could even find one for sale. And then true analog modeling requires specialized diagnostic test equipment and skillset to accurately translate that raw data into unique non-linear algorithms.
It's a shame you had to use all these adjetives, desguising your true purpose to sell your plug-ins, to bring the skills of the developer in question.

FYI, VibeEQ is not based on a Pultec-style equalizer. It's just an equalizer with color and curves based on the developer taste.

Brian, these kind of comments make IK Multimedia look really bad, consider your words before posting, please, it does more harm than good, in my opinion.

@thread: I'd take IK's pultec over any other emulation any day, count Waves, UAD and Softube, which are the ones I've tried.

I'm not questioning Scott's skills as a programmer at all. I'm sorry if you interpreted it that way, so I want to make that clear.

What I meant is simply that component level measurement and modeling is a completely different discipline than software programming, and it is a very costly and time-consuming one, and requires specialized equipment not typically found in a software developer's workspace. It requires a separate skillset from programming that can only be learned through experience, and IK has pretty much blazed that trail in audio DSP. There was no book on it when IK started. I'm just saying the two are apples and oranges. What we do is different than most developers. There are only a handful of developers who do this type of modeling, and to varying degrees.

The process is different for developing an algorithm freely by ear, based only on what sounds good to you (which Scott is good at), and the far more rigid process of taking highly scientific measurements of rare vintage circuitry in a lab, painstakingly charting the response, and then reverse engineering it, figuring out how you can efficiently and faithfully express that mathematically (which very few developers do). Only after all that do programming skills even come into play.

antithesist · Post by **antithesist** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:26 am

What's that smell? Okay, who let one go in here? I'll be back after it airs out.

CrystalWizard · Post by **CrystalWizard** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:49 am

PSP Squad: some of my favorite colors on my palette~

opus_diaboli · Post by **opus_diaboli** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:39 am

Brain@IK:

Are your plugins still only available in 32 bit?

manducator · Post by **manducator** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:06 am

And what about sweetone?

http://www.kvraudio.com/product/sweetone-by-sonimus

Although the pictogram is missing, it's win 64-bit.

jam92189 · Post by **jam92189** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:14 am

well personally vibe eq sounds great and so does the other one from stillwell so I would recomend them for anyone who wants just some nice smooth eq and a nice colored eq. but I do understand what he means Ik emulations in my ipinion kinda kicks the waves emulations ass as far as the pultec and that's why I want it. I did not take it as he was saying anything bad I just got what he meant. Ik makes great emulations and stillwell made a great colored eq for someone who wants a colored eq but not a emulation ok a pultec.

jam92189 · Post by **jam92189** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:24 am

manducator wrote:And what about sweetone?

http://www.kvraudio.com/product/sweetone-by-sonimus

Although the pictogram is missing, it's win 64-bit.

I need more than a tilt eq and to Be honest I love satson but my sknote presence kinda has a tilt thing and a very smooth sounding exciter so Its not really what I am looking for ritht now maybe later on It sounds like it would kick ass when put onto tracks like a kick and stuff.

Brian @ IK Multimedia · Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:04 am

opus_diaboli wrote:Brain@IK:

Are your plugins still only available in 32 bit?

AmpliTube, T-RackS (including all the TR3 Singles we've discussed here), and ARC are 64-bit. All prior AmpliTube 2 generation titles are automatically unlocked by AmpliTube 3 Custom Shop. This includes Ampeg SVX, AmpliTube Fender, Hendrix, Metal, and of course AmpliTube 2, making all gear available together inside a single 64-bit shell.

We've made public our intentions to bring forth 64-bit CSR and SampleTank, both of which have not seen an update in quite a long time. The new versions will be something of a rebirth for both.

jam92189 · Post by **jam92189** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:09 am

Brian @ IK Multimedia wrote:
opus_diaboli wrote:Brain@IK:

Are your plugins still only available in 32 bit?
AmpliTube, T-RackS (including all the TR3 Singles we've discussed here), and ARC are 64-bit. All prior AmpliTube 2 generation titles are automatically unlocked by AmpliTube 3 Custom Shop. This includes Ampeg SVX, AmpliTube Fender, Hendrix, Metal, and of course AmpliTube 2, making all gear available together inside a single 64-bit shell.

We've made public our intentions to bring forth 64-bit CSR and SampleTank, both of which have not seen an update in quite a long time. The new versions will be something of a rebirth for both.

nice I hope to see some of your reverbs and stuff in 64bit

whats a good "vintage" eq