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Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:06 pm

DuX wrote:Well, if it only let us load a sample, it would be kind boring, eh?

Spoken like someone who's never used a pitched down audio source as a modulator.

Resythesis maybe, too? Additive synthesis is very interesting. In my view, absolutely more interesting than subtractive. FM is also far more interesting. I wonder if there's samplers who use FM synthesis and samples as oscillators... I can't remember one. Was it Yamaha SY-77 that could do it? Or maybe A3000... hmmm I'm still frustrated I've never had this sampler. Although ASR-10 was fantastic, and S-950 in its own way, too.

I can see u-he creating something like this far in the future AND I'd really like to see a basic, fast-to-implement sample module in Zebra for the time being.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:10 pm

Urs wrote:Waveform import will be about the closest to sampling it'll ever get.

Fine with me, as long as you're not only talking about single cycles.

That said, we're interested in improvements to physical modeling

Do them both and you'll have a Kronos killer on your hands.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:17 pm

Ya, Kronos. How good is it? Was contemplating...

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:03 pm

Kronos is only using a subset of physmod that Korg licenced from Yamaha. If you want the best hardware physmod, you're looking for Yamaha VL-1 and none other.

Other than that, Kronos is a very good workstation with a loooot of sound creation potential.

hakey · Post by **hakey** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:31 pm

Urs wrote:we're interested in improvements to physical modeling

Perhaps a resonator module of some stripe?

hollo · Post by **hollo** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:17 am

Urs said something about a resonator module in ZebraHZ and Zebra3.

Can someone tell me something about that? I have no idea

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:33 am

Urs wrote:Ya, Kronos. How good is it? Was contemplating...

I was an OASYS user for years - which is what the Kronos is based on - and adored it. Being able to mix all those synth types together in a platform that almost always sounds and feels amazing really opened up a lot of new ideas.

hakey · Post by **hakey** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:27 am

hollo wrote:Urs said something about a resonator module in ZebraHZ and Zebra3.

Can someone tell me something about that?

He's talking about a module that recreates the function of the

Essentially a 3 band resonant filter bank (I think?).

hollo · Post by **hollo** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:08 am

Wow Hakey, You are incredibly helpful, thank you!!!

It was convincing, especially the brass part.

Looking forward to tweak this.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:13 am

EvilDragon wrote:Kronos is only using a subset of physmod that Korg licenced from Yamaha. If you want the best hardware physmod, you're looking for Yamaha VL-1 and none other.

haha really? After all this time they still haven't improved on the VL? That's crazy. Is this due to the death grip Yamaha have on their unused products stifling all progress?

hakey · Post by **hakey** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:24 am

hollo wrote:Wow Hakey, You are incredibly helpful, thank you!!!

According to Urs reply in the other thread, it's four bands.

Looking forward to tweak this.

Afaics, inserting four parallel filters - one in each lane of Zebra's voice grid - will replicate the effect (you can certainly get tolerably close to what's going on that vid.).

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:34 am

aMUSEd wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:Kronos is only using a subset of physmod that Korg licenced from Yamaha. If you want the best hardware physmod, you're looking for Yamaha VL-1 and none other.
haha really? After all this time they still haven't improved on the VL? That's crazy. Is this due to the death grip Yamaha have on their unused products stifling all progress?

Well, Kronos only has plucked string modeling, while VL-1 had brass models and stuff.

hakey · Post by **hakey** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:44 am

EvilDragon wrote: Kronos only has plucked string modeling, while VL-1 had brass models and stuff.

The EP modelling?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:30 pm

That's not licenced from Yamaha, they're using some kind of resynthesis for EPs - the core of the sound for EPs is still sample-based.

hakey · Post by **hakey** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:58 pm

EvilDragon wrote:That's not licenced from Yamaha, they're using some kind of resynthesis for EPs - the core of the sound for EPs is still sample-based.

sample based modelling, imo

u-he

KVR Audio

u-he sampler anybody?