TAL-U-NO-LX. Uber accurate Juno 60 emulation.

[Kees49]

Ok, it was some type of digital sounding distortion, thought it was aliasing.
Sorry for that. I'll give it another try soon...

[lionscub68]

UPDATE:
Patrick fixed the Arp/ sustain pedal response issue I (personally had) noted earlier in the string.

SOLVED!
In the latest update (1.61)

WOOT

[Sendy]

I've noticed a bug where when you switch into fingered portamento (mode 1) nothing happens until you switch to mode 2 and then back. Anyone else verify this?

[olikana]

Fernando's Resonance A/B Files

Juno-60 Resonance Quirkiness.wav:
https://www.box.com/s/8c37eee5a5333416456f

U-No Resonance Quirkiness.wav:
https://www.box.com/s/102399c96288b27dfde3

Wow, but this doesn't seem like accurate emulation, not only the quirks, but mainly raw waveform has totaly different tonality ... ? From these recordings the UNO comes out really very thin in contrast to real Juno

... and comparison audio files on TAL web sit were so close , why such difference now ? ...

akademie

simply they are no playing back the same patch,not the same settings.
there is no "raw" waveform on display .

the juno60 starts with a saw and subpulse with cut off about 60% and resonance abou 50%.
i matched the opening tone closer to that juno 60 example with the unolx in 2 seconds.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50331508/unolx ... atched.wav
and if u fine tune it a lil more u'll most likely get it exact sounding.

i guess fernando just wanted to show that they boht have that quicky behaviour in the filter and not do and A/B match soundwise.

[jbuonacc]

thanks for doing that Fernando, it shows this quirk of the J-60 resonance pretty well. it's almost more "ugly" on the real thing.

i almost wish he had left that little 'emulation' out.

either way, U-NO-LX is a great sounding synth, and a steal for the intro price of $35. it'd be nice if he did something about the cosmetic issues though.

[akademie]

Fernando's Resonance A/B Files

Juno-60 Resonance Quirkiness.wav:
https://www.box.com/s/8c37eee5a5333416456f

U-No Resonance Quirkiness.wav:
https://www.box.com/s/102399c96288b27dfde3

Wow, but this doesn't seem like accurate emulation, not only the quirks, but mainly raw waveform has totaly different tonality ... ? From these recordings the UNO comes out really very thin in contrast to real Juno

... and comparison audio files on TAL web sit were so close , why such difference now ? ...

akademie

simply they are no playing back the same patch,not the same settings.
there is no "raw" waveform on display .

the juno60 starts with a saw and subpulse with cut off about 60% and resonance abou 50%.
i matched the opening tone closer to that juno 60 example with the unolx in 2 seconds.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50331508/unolx ... atched.wav
and if u fine tune it a lil more u'll most likely get it exact sounding.

i guess fernando just wanted to show that they boht have that quicky behaviour in the filter and not do and A/B match soundwise.

Holy sh*t, that is 1:1. That's it. Thank you for proving.
Great

akademie

[solidtrax]

Fernando's Resonance A/B Files

Juno-60 Resonance Quirkiness.wav:
https://www.box.com/s/8c37eee5a5333416456f

U-No Resonance Quirkiness.wav:
https://www.box.com/s/102399c96288b27dfde3

Wow, but this doesn't seem like accurate emulation, not only the quirks, but mainly raw waveform has totaly different tonality ... ? From these recordings the UNO comes out really very thin in contrast to real Juno

... and comparison audio files on TAL web sit were so close , why such difference now ? ...

akademie

You don't have to forget that no analog synthesizer is exactly the same. Especially not with synthesizers that are almost 30 years old (and not serviced every year )

I am guessing that it is not moddeled after one but maybe a few juno-60's. But certainly not modelled after yours.

[submerge]

FYI for anyone using automap style MIDI control -

Host notifies automation parameters and preset name while changing presets. (Version 1.60).

I only got 15 minutes this morning to test, but first impressions are it works perfectly now, in Live 8 anyway ! The relatively simple architecture make it so easy to completely program this synth without too much paging around controller menus, it really lends itself well to that. Love it!

[tshear23]

Posted my review tonight: http://waveformless.blogspot.com/2012/0 ... no-lx.html

[Xenox.AFL]

Ohh, the thread is veeeryy big.. Sorry, i wasn't able to come in here earlier...

Well, nice that you like TAL's new synth, i like the sound, too...!

On this way i want to say a big thanx to Patrick and to FMR for his great presets...!!

Frank

[dexterbella]

Gotta say I love the arp on this thing - EXT16 mode is brilliant but does make me wish there were more options than just up, down etc. I know, I know, it's an emulation, it just does what it does. But if there ever is a souped up version....

[fmr]

Fernando's Resonance A/B Files

Juno-60 Resonance Quirkiness.wav:
https://www.box.com/s/8c37eee5a5333416456f

U-No Resonance Quirkiness.wav:
https://www.box.com/s/102399c96288b27dfde3

Wow, but this doesn't seem like accurate emulation, not only the quirks, but mainly raw waveform has totaly different tonality ... ? From these recordings the UNO comes out really very thin in contrast to real Juno

... and comparison audio files on TAL web sit were so close , why such difference now ? ...

akademie

simply they are no playing back the same patch,not the same settings.
there is no "raw" waveform on display .

the juno60 starts with a saw and subpulse with cut off about 60% and resonance abou 50%.
i matched the opening tone closer to that juno 60 example with the unolx in 2 seconds.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50331508/unolx ... atched.wav
and if u fine tune it a lil more u'll most likely get it exact sounding.

i guess fernando just wanted to show that they boht have that quicky behaviour in the filter and not do and A/B match soundwise.

Thanks olikana. I guess I have to be more careful in the future. I was just concerned with showing the quirkiness in the resonance. Next time I do A/B examples, I'll have precisely the same patch previously on both. But now that it's established, I think we can move on appreciating the great sound U-No-LX can do

[fmr]

Ohh, the thread is veeeryy big.. Sorry, i wasn't able to come in here earlier...

Well, nice that you like TAL's new synth, i like the sound, too...!

On this way i want to say a big thanx to Patrick and to FMR for his great presets...!!

Frank

Thanks for the compliment Frank Coming from you, it means a lot

[solidtrax]

Posted my review tonight: http://waveformless.blogspot.com/2012/0 ... no-lx.html

Great review!

[braj]

Velocity sensitive EXT 16 sync (Version 1.63).

Yep, that's FR contribution right there Yay!