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d.bop · Post by **d.bop** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:17 am

Wow you guys have quite the discussion going on! I'm getting a lot of great ideas for future updates. Keep it coming

Thank everybody!
-Dustin

A.M. Gold · Post by **A.M. Gold** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:38 am

Dustin, I do have a feature request if this hasn't been made yet: my understanding is that one nice thing about dual panning is that you can set a stereo width, and then pan that width around while retaining it.

It would be great to have something like a "width lock" on your plug-in, so you can use the width mode to set the width, then lock it so you can now move both sliders at once, but you will be moving the two of them left and right together instead of in and out together. "Width pan" might be another way of naming it.

d.bop · Post by **d.bop** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:51 am

A.M. Gold wrote:Dustin, I do have a feature request if this hasn't been made yet: my understanding is that one nice thing about dual panning is that you can set a stereo width, and then pan that width around while retaining it.

It would be great to have something like a "width lock" on your plug-in, so you can use the width mode to set the width, then lock it so you can now move both sliders at once, but you will be moving the two of them left and right together instead of in and out together. "Width pan" might be another way of naming it.

Great minds think alike

I was actually talking about this with lightsfadelow before I released the plugin.

Once this gross migraine clears up, I'll think of a snazzy way to implement it. I do like your idea of "Width Lock." I'll try and build off of that.

Thanks

A.M. Gold · Post by **A.M. Gold** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:07 am

Hey, sorry about the migraine. I get them too (luckily, only mildly painful, though). I usually take aspirin, Tylenol, and caffeine (which is what is in most of the OTC migraine pills in case you didn't know).

Hope you get to feeling better!

miedex · Post by **miedex** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:44 am

Some movement of the controls results in a light crackling sound artifact. Could this be smoothed out?

lightsfadelow · Post by **lightsfadelow** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:55 am

In what host?

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:37 pm

@lights:
Well, we obviously have a different workflow, either way is cool. If you are used to it and get the job done "quick", I won't argue. It's just that I'm used to it a bit different.

@Dustin:
Looking forward to the feature implementations. Currently I'm set with Cubase's internal panning matrix. I just with they would make a "lock" function. I really like the idea and simplicity behind a "locked" stereo position. I mean... usually I don't pan out rhythm guitars futher than 35-40 off center, and pads to 60-80 off center maximum. It's almost always the same values for me. Boring, I know, but effective.

lightsfadelow · Post by **lightsfadelow** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:00 pm

Compy: I'm a huge advocate of my approach for my particular application. If you want something to act as a single track, there is no better way to do it than the way I am doing it--with the help of Dustin's plugin. If you ever find yourself wanting to dual mic a source yet want the track to behave as if it came from a single mic that had the best qualities of the two, try this approach and you'll be sold. It's sort of like an instrument track in Cubase. It's a no-brained most of the time for the most straightforward workflow. But there are always cases where you may want a midi track and a VST instrument in the rack.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:22 am

Tricky-Loops wrote:Isn't that something which is available at any DAW? Are there still DAW's without dual panning and pan law adjustment?

studio one, sonar afaik.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:23 am

Fantastic job btw, your stuff is very well thought out.

d.bop · Post by **d.bop** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:10 pm

A.M. Gold wrote:Hey, sorry about the migraine. I get them too (luckily, only mildly painful, though). I usually take aspirin, Tylenol, and caffeine (which is what is in most of the OTC migraine pills in case you didn't know).

Hope you get to feeling better!

Haha that's what I get for working on a computer for 8 hours a day then going home and coding plugins on a netbook until I go to bed

Thanks for the advice. Usually a little Coca-Cola clears mine up!

miedex wrote:Some movement of the controls results in a light crackling sound artifact. Could this be smoothed out?

Hmm.. does this happen when moving the controls fast or slow or both? What about when you use width mode, solo, or adjust the pan law? Also, which DAW are you using and have you noticed this with my MonoChannel and StereoChannel plugins?

More information would be GREAT! Once we narrow it down, I can fix it right away.

Compyfox wrote:@Dustin:
Looking forward to the feature implementations. Currently I'm set with Cubase's internal panning matrix. I just with they would make a "lock" function. I really like the idea and simplicity behind a "locked" stereo position. I mean... usually I don't pan out rhythm guitars futher than 35-40 off center, and pads to 60-80 off center maximum. It's almost always the same values for me. Boring, I know, but effective.

I think I have some pretty good ideas on how to implement locked panning (including letting the user choose the step size.) It's all in my head right now though. I haven't tested anything yet.

hibidy wrote:Fantastic job btw, your stuff is very well thought out.

Thank you! I do my best to create a good workflow that I think will fit most users.

Thanks everyone,
-Dustin

miedex · Post by **miedex** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:46 pm

d.bop wrote:
miedex wrote:Some movement of the controls results in a light crackling sound artifact. Could this be smoothed out?
Hmm.. does this happen when moving the controls fast or slow or both? What about when you use width mode, solo, or adjust the pan law? Also, which DAW are you using and have you noticed this with my MonoChannel and StereoChannel plugins?

More information would be GREAT! Once we narrow it down, I can fix it right away.

Windows XP sp3 32bit, AudioMulch 2.2.1. It happens less in width mode. It happens the most when I move it fast with the mouse but I can still hear it when I move it slow. I just checked and it seems like there are no artifacts heard with host automation, just mouse movement.

lightsfadelow · Post by **lightsfadelow** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:40 pm

I have to wonder if that's a graphics card artifact. I've seen them in the past prior to Aero which was first released in Vista.

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:53 pm

d.bop wrote: I think I have some pretty good ideas on how to implement locked panning (including letting the user choose the step size.) It's all in my head right now though. I haven't tested anything yet.

To quote one particular time traveler:
"Brilliant!"

A.M. Gold · Post by **A.M. Gold** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:01 pm

And to quote one of his predecessors: Fantastic!

DualPanner - Free Stereo Panning VST