zebra 2 automation in sonar

[calireyrey]

hey guys thanks for reading.

how can i get my midi tracks automated to change in real time to what i change in zebra?

clicking the "W" (automation write) button on my midi track works for automating volume, pan, etc.

how can i get it to write for when i modulate the sounds in zebra? ie if i wanted the pitch to gradually increase during a build up on an edm house song.

thanks for answering a nub question and helping out a fellow musician.

[calireyrey]

bump help please

[Bobbotov]

Do you want Sonar to capture midi changes to Zebra from a controller or do you want the changes to Zebra automated from Sonar?

[calireyrey]

Do you want Sonar to capture midi changes to Zebra from a controller or do you want the changes to Zebra automated from Sonar?

thanks man i appreciate the response.

i want sonar to capture midi changes with the changes i make in zebra.

i have no idea how controllers work, i didn't realize that they would fix the problem. there are still so many parts of sonar and general studio tactics that i haven't gone over yet, i've just been crossing bridges as i come to them.

i'll be doing some research.

thanks again!

[Bobbotov]

I am still not clear, but I will assume that you have a keyboard that has controllers. You then assign midi cc to a specific dial or slider on your keyboard. You assign midi cc in Zebra by right clicking on a parameter (oscillator pitch for example) and then moving the keyboard dial or slider. You should then have real-time control over that parameter.

You then record your playing with Sonar and move those dials or sliders. The changes will be recorded along with all other midi data (i.e. notes).

Is this what you are talking about?

[calireyrey]

I am still not clear, but I will assume that you have a keyboard that has controllers. You then assign midi cc to a specific dial or slider on your keyboard. You assign midi cc in Zebra by right clicking on a parameter (oscillator pitch for example) and then moving the keyboard dial or slider. You should then have real-time control over that parameter.

You then record your playing with Sonar and move those dials or sliders. The changes will be recorded along with all other midi data (i.e. notes).

Is this what you are talking about?

yeah this is what i'm trying to do.

i have an m-audio key studio 49i.

but initially i was thinking just moving dials or sliders on the zebra 2 interface, i hadn't actually thought about assigning them to knobs or sliders on the keyboard.

the keyboard itself has a master volume slider, knobs for mic gain, inst. gain, and directed monitor, as well as a piano volume knob. can i assign controllers to that?

edit: there's also pitch blend and modulation roll sliders

[calireyrey]

i'm not really sure how the controllers work.. i'm having trouble finding tutorials and the sonar user manual isn't really providing me with anything. i need someone to explain it to me like i'm 5.

also,
i recorded midi with my key studio through the cakewalk tts synth that comes default with the program, and when i turn the volume jobs, the playback plays with the modifications i made to the volume while playing. however the same thing doesn't work when i put it through the zebra 2 synth.

totally lost here

edit: the piano volume knob doesn't effect the zebra output, but the pitch blend slider does.

[Bobbotov]

yeah this is what i'm trying to do.

i have an m-audio key studio 49i.

but initially i was thinking just moving dials or sliders on the zebra 2 interface, i hadn't actually thought about assigning them to knobs or sliders on the keyboard.

the keyboard itself has a master volume slider, knobs for mic gain, inst. gain, and directed monitor, as well as a piano volume knob. can i assign controllers to that?

I think the 49i is really geared to live playing with it's built in audio controls and piano sound. Not sure if the dials can be midi assigned or not. What does the manual say? If nothing else try what I said above and turn one of the dials while in Midi Learn. Certainly the Pitch Bend and Mod Wheel are midi controllers by default if nothing else.

[Bobbotov]

i'm not really sure how the controllers work.. i'm having trouble finding tutorials and the sonar user manual isn't really providing me with anything. i need someone to explain it to me like i'm 5.

Controllers are means of controlling soft synth parameters via hardware. As simple as that. However, since the hardware is designed to be general purpose it does not know which dial to assign to which parameters. That is what Midi Learn is for. Most soft synths allow just about all parameters to be controlled this way.

Some parameters are defined in the synth patch to be controlled by either the pitch or mod wheel. That is why they work without Midi Learn. But other dials on the controller have to be specifically assigned and those assignment can change as much as you want to whatever you want.