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Ingonator wrote: Easiest way is publishing as WAV files which could be used by almost any sampler including hardware.
Anyway in that way you would be very limited in terms of sound design. With Kontakt you have tons of options including scripting.

A problem with free samplers is either that they are discontinued, no longer supported or are limited to Windows only. BAsed on that you could forget evyerything done with SynthEdit or SynthMaker as those could not be used with a Mac.

The only common format since around 30 years was sampling but with a sample it will be hard doing tweaks of the original sound like e.g. changing the Pulsewidth etc.

You mentioned a free synth that could use different formats. How about the Absynth format then. Do you think NI would allow to have the Absynth engine included in a free synth?

Another way would be having a free synth that includes all existing synthesis techniques in a single plugin and is available for all platforms. But which developer would offer such a synth for free?
Not to mention how much time and effort it would need to reprogram sounds of other synth with that one and if they would even sound the same.

One synth close to this could be a modular synth like e.g. Mutools MUX which is also quite cheap but there are many additional modules needed to make it able to do everything. Same about BLOK Modular: http://www.blokmodular.com/


I guess that a common format which everyone could use will remain a dream...




Ingo
Maybe, maybe not. I think it may just be a matter of time until someone somehow finds a way to make a softsynth that is able to "interpret" a wide variety of sounds.

In fact, it seems to me that many VSTs use a similar file name already "fxb" or something...
Wouldn't this mean that presets of one synth could be opened in another? This would be neat, since a synth like Crystal would be able to modify them in ways that Synth1 would not...

brian

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briandc wrote:Would it be possible to share a favorite sound on this forum?
Here's one of my favourites. This sound comes from Krakil's free StringsZ synth, and it has a certain charm I like a lot. It sounds to me like an acoustic instrument from a lost continent:

Strings and otherworlds
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briandc wrote: In fact, it seems to me that many VSTs use a similar file name already "fxb" or something...
Wouldn't this mean that presets of one synth could be opened in another? This would be neat, since a synth like Crystal would be able to modify them in ways that Synth1 would not...

brian
No, the fxb format does not mean they are all compatible. In the fxb file usually just the settings of the different synth modules are stored. Without the correct synth those files are useless.


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himalaya wrote:
briandc wrote:Would it be possible to share a favorite sound on this forum?
Here's one of my favourites. This sound comes from Krakil's free StringsZ synth, and it has a certain charm I like a lot. It sounds to me like an acoustic instrument from a lost continent:

Strings and otherworlds
Nice one! :) Like bowed Cyther (Zither)?

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george wrote:
Bronto Scorpio wrote: Speaking of Surge, I made this some time ago only using Surge and no external FX and just my own presets: http://soundcloud.com/bronto-scorpio/gu ... -synth-one
Nice one, I like the dubby bass sound.
Thanks George!

Cheers
Dennis

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Here are some Ambitron sound examples I made with some of my field recordings and some other samples I made :)
http://soundcloud.com/bronto-scorpio/sets/ambitron/

Cheers
Dennis

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himalaya wrote:
briandc wrote:Would it be possible to share a favorite sound on this forum?
Here's one of my favourites. This sound comes from Krakil's free StringsZ synth, and it has a certain charm I like a lot. It sounds to me like an acoustic instrument from a lost continent:

Strings and otherworlds
Very interesting, and familiar. I think I've heard this type of sound somewhere else. The strings are a bit "heavy" for use in an intense kind of way, but it definitely has a special place. It tends toward the lower tones rather than the high, stringy-type sound of, say, a harp. Difficult to place, but merits working with..

Imo, of course! :D

brian

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Bronto Scorpio wrote:Here are some Ambitron sound examples I made with some of my field recordings and some other samples I made :)
http://soundcloud.com/bronto-scorpio/sets/ambitron/

Cheers
Dennis
I think the challenge of soundscapes, it making them fit into music. There was a group called "talk talk" who had a knack for fitting "unmusical" sounds into their music, and their style is one of my favorites.

Of course, soundscapes are perfect for movie audio effects, too..
But the right touch using some of the sounds here, even in a rather up-beat type of song, could be really cool... ;)

brian

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Ambitron looks like fun. I'm really needing to spend some time on Absynth and maybe Alchemy, putting in my own samples and mucking around with them. And maybe Ambitron now, too!

So many synths...

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briandc wrote:
himalaya wrote:
briandc wrote:Would it be possible to share a favorite sound on this forum?
Here's one of my favourites. This sound comes from Krakil's free StringsZ synth, and it has a certain charm I like a lot. It sounds to me like an acoustic instrument from a lost continent:

Strings and otherworlds
Very interesting, and familiar. I think I've heard this type of sound somewhere else. The strings are a bit "heavy" for use in an intense kind of way, but it definitely has a special place. It tends toward the lower tones rather than the high, stringy-type sound of, say, a harp. Difficult to place, but merits working with..

Imo, of course! :D

brian
where can StringsZ d/loaded from ? , nothings coming up when i search for it

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briandc wrote:
Bronto Scorpio wrote:Here are some Ambitron sound examples I made with some of my field recordings and some other samples I made :)
http://soundcloud.com/bronto-scorpio/sets/ambitron/

Cheers
Dennis
I think the challenge of soundscapes, it making them fit into music. There was a group called "talk talk" who had a knack for fitting "unmusical" sounds into their music, and their style is one of my favorites.

Of course, soundscapes are perfect for movie audio effects, too..
But the right touch using some of the sounds here, even in a rather up-beat type of song, could be really cool... ;)

brian
I love to combine tonal and atonal stuff and blur the lines between the two. Ambitron is a nice tool for that kind of stuff!
synaesthesia wrote:Ambitron looks like fun. I'm really needing to spend some time on Absynth and maybe Alchemy, putting in my own samples and mucking around with them. And maybe Ambitron now, too!

So many synths...
Yeah, Ambitron is fun!
But you really should make a bank for Zebra first :D

Cheers
Dennis

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Bronto Scorpio wrote:Yeah, Ambitron is fun!
But you really should make a bank for Zebra first :D

Cheers
Dennis
Ha, I will be before the end of the year. I have been commissioned to produce one, which I will then also be able to release commercially. Which is nice.

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bazwillrun wrote:
where can StringsZ d/loaded from ? , nothings coming up when i search for it
scroll down
http://www.krakli.com/krakli-free-synths/
http://www.electric-himalaya.com
VSTi and hardware synth sound design
3D/5D sound design since 2012

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briandc wrote:
himalaya wrote:
briandc wrote:Would it be possible to share a favorite sound on this forum?
Here's one of my favourites. This sound comes from Krakil's free StringsZ synth, and it has a certain charm I like a lot. It sounds to me like an acoustic instrument from a lost continent:

Strings and otherworlds
Very interesting, and familiar. I think I've heard this type of sound somewhere else. The strings are a bit "heavy" for use in an intense kind of way, but it definitely has a special place. It tends toward the lower tones rather than the high, stringy-type sound of, say, a harp. Difficult to place, but merits working with..

Imo, of course! :D

brian
MMmmmm. Nice brassy fat string sounds.

Reminds me very much of the Steampipe ensemble in Reaktor.

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