New DIVA components

[electro]

I didn't vote, because my next choice for an emulated component would be the Waldorf PPG oscilator.

Why don't you try running the Waldorf PPG 3.V
http://www.waldorf-music.info/overview.html?lang=en

into some filter plug like the Moog Multimode?
http://www.uaudio.com/store/special-pro ... ilter.html

I don't see how so many people can be asking Urs to put time into emulating things that have not only been done already by others, but done well

Oberheim OB-X (Sonic Projects OP-X)
PPG Wave 2.x (Waldorf PPG 3.V)
Juno 60 (TAL-Uno-LX)
Arp Odyssey (Gforce Oddity)
Korg Wavestation (Korg Legacy Digital)

I would much prefer to see a straight Prophet 5 U-he emulation on the model of TAL-Uno-LX

[rockin1]

I don't see how so many people can be asking Urs to put time into emulating things that have not only been done already by others, but done well

Oberheim OB-X (Sonic Projects OP-X)

Well is pretty subjective here. This is not a natively coded plugin. It is done with SynthEdit. It is not 64 bit and does not have a Mac version. Regardless of how good it sounds this is just not usable for many of us in its current format.

[olikana]

I don't see how so many people can be asking Urs to put time into emulating things that have not only been done already by others, but done well

who says they are done well? the marketing hype ? the kvr hype ? you ??
sorry to break your bubble of assurance but they are not.

oddity and op-xv are flawed and sound plasticky with some resonant patches.
nor they are immune from digital artefacts.
in theory even the moog thing was done well according to some////i remember the rave reviews of arturia minimoog and minimonsta etc...but they are flawaed in the same way oddity is and the ppg virtual filter is (same flawed filter approach).
and the reviews about the NI pro52? here on kvr i remember the comments..."like the real thing " right . not to mention the ms20 (which btw was a decent emulation but still not "there") or the monopoly (decent but still not there).

the only good accurate synth emulations out there -apart from the diva modules- is the Tal unolx.
whihch is done with the same approach as Diva. (0 feedback filter delay)
everything elsein the emulation world should go to the trash bin and be rewritten.

even the 303 has not yet been done right....with mid/high resonance settings none of the current emulations nail it 100% and they'll never do untill they remove filter feedaback delay from the equation.

if previous emulations were actually accurate diva would have never seen the light of day...but they were obviously not.
the filters, the way oscillators are initialized, alias free FM...it had to go and fix quite a few issues which for a decade had gone ignored .

[penguinfromdeep]

+1

[rockin1]

+1

What is this a +1 to?

[penguinfromdeep]

+1

What is this a +1 to?

To Olikanas insightful if a little polemic post.

[whyterabbyt]

I don't see how so many people can be asking Urs to put time into emulating things that have not only been done already by others, but done well

who says they are done well? the marketing hype ? the kvr hype ? you ??
sorry to break your bubble of assurance but they are not.

so somehow your opinion is intrinscially correct?

[Crackbaby]

who says they are done well? the marketing hype ? the kvr hype ? you ??
sorry to break your bubble of assurance but they are not.

oddity and op-xv are flawed and sound plasticky with some resonant patches.
nor they are immune from digital artefacts.
in theory even the moog thing was done well according to some////i remember the rave reviews of arturia minimoog and minimonsta etc...but they are flawaed in the same way oddity is and the ppg virtual filter is (same flawed filter approach).
and the reviews about the NI pro52? here on kvr i remember the comments..."like the real thing " right . not to mention the ms20 (which btw was a decent emulation but still not "there") or the monopoly (decent but still not there).

the only good accurate synth emulations out there -apart from the diva modules- is the Tal unolx.
whihch is done with the same approach as Diva. (0 feedback filter delay)
everything elsein the emulation world should go to the trash bin and be rewritten.

even the 303 has not yet been done right....with mid/high resonance settings none of the current emulations nail it 100% and they'll never do untill they remove filter feedaback delay from the equation.

if previous emulations were actually accurate diva would have never seen the light of day...but they were obviously not.
the filters, the way oscillators are initialized, alias free FM...it had to go and fix quite a few issues which for a decade had gone ignored .

For mentioning marketing hype you sure do like 0dff! From your post i can tell you've only read what other people's popular opinions are. You don't have the insight of what 0dff actually does for the sound, do you? Have you studied it? Do you work with it?

"the way oscillators are initialized" please explain this in YOUR own words without quoting or sending me off to some old random post. You banged the drum, you explain.

[iamyourfather]

even the 303 has not yet been done right....with mid/high resonance settings none of the current emulations nail it 100% and they'll never do untill they remove filter feedaback delay from the equation.

Agree. The ABL2 and D16 clones are pretty good, but the magic just isn't there.

[Echoes in the Attic]

There are already great 303's out there. And a CS-80 has a pretty different signal path than the DIVA synths. I think a prophet 5 would insert perfectly into the current set up. A couple oscs with cross-mod, single filter, two envlopes. The whole prophet feature set could be incorporated into DIVA's architecture perfectly.

[penguinfromdeep]

There might be great 303's but none of them nail the sound properly for us anal-retentive analog enthusiasts. Good enough for some or even most I guess still...

[Uncle E]

Guys, no arguing is necessary, the poll speaks for itself! I personally voted for the Prophet 5 but I guess I'll acquiesce and accept the CS-80 or OB-X that the majority want.

[bmrzycki]

My vote is for u-he to focus on Zebra3...

[Echoes in the Attic]

My vote is for u-he to focus on Zebra3...

Ha. Well my vote would be for U-He to create 64 bit mac versions of Diva and Zebra in VST2 format. But it wasn't in the list!

[iamyourfather]

Guys, no arguing is necessary, the poll speaks for itself! I personally voted for the Prophet 5 but I guess I'll acquiesce and accept the CS-80 or OB-X that the majority want.

While this was a fun exercise, I doubt very much that it will have any bearing on what gets added to DIVA. I expect the guys to do what they feel is best and I am too cool for school with that