That is the main problem with the Sonic Projects. The sound is 95% close to the hardware.rockin1 wrote:Well is pretty subjective here. This is not a natively coded plugin. It is done with SynthEdit. It is not 64 bit and does not have a Mac version. Regardless of how good it sounds this is just not usable for many of us in its current format.electro wrote:
I don't see how so many people can be asking Urs to put time into emulating things that have not only been done already by others, but done well
Oberheim OB-X (Sonic Projects OP-X)
Have to disagree with you on that PPG critique. Its one of the best synths and definately in the same category as the TAL LX. All it needs is the x64 Native port.olikana wrote:who says they are done well? the marketing hype ? the kvr hype ? you ??electro wrote:
I don't see how so many people can be asking Urs to put time into emulating things that have not only been done already by others, but done well
sorry to break your bubble of assurance but they are not.
oddity and op-xv are flawed and sound plasticky with some resonant patches.
nor they are immune from digital artefacts.
in theory even the moog thing was done well according to some////i remember the rave reviews of arturia minimoog and minimonsta etc...but they are flawaed in the same way oddity is and the ppg virtual filter is (same flawed filter approach).
and the reviews about the NI pro52? here on kvr i remember the comments..."like the real thing " right . not to mention the ms20 (which btw was a decent emulation but still not "there") or the monopoly (decent but still not there).
the only good accurate synth emulations out there -apart from the diva modules- is the Tal unolx.
whihch is done with the same approach as Diva. (0 feedback filter delay)
everything elsein the emulation world should go to the trash bin and be rewritten.
even the 303 has not yet been done right....with mid/high resonance settings none of the current emulations nail it 100% and they'll never do untill they remove filter feedaback delay from the equation.
if previous emulations were actually accurate diva would have never seen the light of day...but they were obviously not.
the filters, the way oscillators are initialized, alias free FM...it had to go and fix quite a few issues which for a decade had gone ignored .
Oddity is a decade old and OP-X and Oddity do have some platicyness, but they still come close to their hardware in many scenarios. The Xils Synthix is another good one too. These synths may be lacking that final 5% to make them indistinguishable from hardware they emulate and it may be the zero delay filter feedback thing, but you are wrong to think they need to be redone.
Just listen to the A/B Oberheim files a few posts down, especially sitting in the mix the difference is almost nil.
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 4&start=60
But not without support for accent and slide ... Something that could work with the new BlueARP for instance
Though the routings are a bit limited for that with for instance only one modulator for the sallen filters. Even with the "Add" i still don't get 'enough' control 