KVR Audio

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:09 pm

satYatunes wrote:No, mouse wheel doesn't work on Pro-channel to adjust the parameters even if you hold control or not.

That is really disappointing. I always thought they would implement that.

satYatunes · Post by **satYatunes** » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:30 pm

Have you tried ACT with X2? See if it works for you. Couple of weeks back I followed this video to set up my Emu Xboard 25 and it's been working like a charm. This video shows how to do it from scratch.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:07 pm

Controllers and hosts? Playing nice? I have no idea how that works

I saw something for ACT just recently and was like NO WAY, that has never worked for me!

....so far so good with checking things out. Uggggg, I thought it had a pretty good grasp of X1 at one time,

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:20 pm

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:19 pm

SEEE!!!!

MEH, had my first crash

It's TH2 related. If I save a PC preset, and change that preset, it creates a new docked window. Try clicking on it and POOF! Love the crash reporter, when did they implement that?

Edit: I've had MANY crashes since this and the idiotic "reporter" they implemented is so STUPID, it doesn't even know it's a crash

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:56 am

JoseC. · Post by **JoseC.** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:31 am

hibidy wrote:I don't know what you guys are doing to get dimpro to not crash with ANY drumgroove selected, but it's 100% of time here. Was that way with 8.5, was that way in reaper, was that way in X1, is that way now. It's impossible that after a clean install that it's "my system".

I don't use Dim Pro drumgrooves, but I just tried in my net surfing laptop, X1d on Vista 32 with the internal soundcard on Asio4All (in a nutshell, shittiest config possible), and I can't make it crash. I loaded a drumgroove preset, changed the Dim Pro instance to multitimbral, loaded three other drumgrooves (two rex2 and an sfz) in elements 2 to 4, dragged all the midi files to four looped midi tracks mapped channels 1-4 and messed with that for a long while without any troubles. How do you get it to crash?

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:30 pm

JoseC. · Post by **JoseC.** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:38 pm

hibidy wrote:Hmmmmmmmmmmm. I don't get it. Now, I'm x64 but I think some x64 guys say it works. Frustrating.

I can't test that then, sorry. My DAW is still in XP, and will remain so at least for a couple of months.

grymmjack · Post by **grymmjack** » Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:30 pm

hibidy wrote:So, with a little more time, a couple of things.

I don't know what you guys are doing to get dimpro to not crash with ANY drumgroove selected, but it's 100% of time here. Was that way with 8.5, was that way in reaper, was that way in X1, is that way now. It's impossible that after a clean install that it's "my system".

TH2 is like a cancerous growth........in that I now am curious about the full version I don't know if it's placebo yet, but once you get used to it, it starts becoming better and better.

I'm not a breverb fan Don't get me wrong, it's a fine verb but VR is just better.

Quirks. I've got some "now" time issues. Nothing huge, just kinda like "wtf?" (edit: stuff that did NOT happen at first!). And some weird issues with "autosize". Hmmmmmmmmmmm. I like it, but it's not perfect.....maybe I need to work with it more.

Got a bunch of stuff up and running, but not many third party things. Trying to be in the box. LOVE rapture. I always seem to find useable things with that!

breverb isn't that great to me either. I bought it in a no brainer a long time ago, used it 1 time, uninstalled it, figured the no brainer in this case meant i had no brain, not that i would not have buyers remorse.

Sounds like you're getting on OK with X2 though? How is the rest of the program hibidy? It's scary that you're having issues with DimPro which is so ancient in CW land, I'd think they use that as a benchmark for stability/greatness there (it's a great plug-in).

I'm still staying away for the same reasons I have stayed away in the past (buyers remorse and so on) but I would definitely like to hear how you are getting on with the real program itself.

In a OT side-note I'm excited to know that StudioOne 2.5 is free and has a bunch of great stuff which further strengthens my resolve not to drink the X2 koolaid. The strange thing about S1, even though I absolutely adore Live, I do not have ANY buyers remorse about S1 and still use it. I think this comes down to confidence in PreSonus and the devteam of S1 to continue to do the right things in future versions, plus the greatness that is S1 itself.

Aside from Reason 6.5, which I'm happy with as well, S1 totally kills Live for audio tracking, recording, etc. no comparison. Reason does too but only because Live doesn't have takes/comping. I'm trying to be a very harsh critic and stick with only one DAW but it's difficult. If S1 added in some live features; racks, session view (or matrix like X2 has or blocks like reason has), I would be more prone to use only S1 and sell everything else off. Reason is a viable competitor now too, which I didn't expect at all but Reason can integrate with any DAW too via rewire

Anyway can you share how you are getting on with X2? Thanks!

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:49 pm

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JoseC. · Post by **JoseC.** » Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:13 pm

grymmjack wrote:It's scary that you're having issues with DimPro which is so ancient in CW land, I'd think they use that as a benchmark for stability/greatness there (it's a great plug-in).

I'm still staying away for the same reasons I have stayed away in the past (buyers remorse and so on) but I would definitely like to hear how you are getting on with the real program itself.

In a OT side-note I'm excited to know that StudioOne 2.5 is free and has a bunch of great stuff which further strengthens my resolve not to drink the X2 koolaid.

From a long time Sonar user's point of view who's been also using Ableton Live for a while, it is funny to read this kind of thing. Sonar's "koolaid" is just that this is a deep program that has more features than most other DAWs, which means that maybe, and just maybe, there are more chances to find things that do not work as expected, bugs or just RTFM issues. That someone's have issues with an included plugin like Dim Pro should not be called "scary" if most of us Sonar users are not having that same issues, or any such issues with other plugins. Truth is that Sonar is as stable as any other program. I've been using Live, Sonar, and Reaper in two computers for the last two or three years and Sonar's has been most probably the most stable of the three, with Live being most definitely the least stable overall, and Reaper being the least stable when heavy midi load was involved. Dim Pro, by the way, is not a "benchmark for stability", whatever that might mean, it is just another included synth that works as expected in most systems.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:31 pm

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:41 pm

Skyline UK · Post by **Skyline UK** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:20 am

I'm really enjoying X2, although at first I had big problems with the ProChannel not drawing sometimes. It turns out that my PC had something called Windows short file names turned off, whereas the default is 'on'. I had no idea what this was, let alone meddle with it! Some other users were legged up by this also. It turns out that the Cakewalk code is a bit old fashioned in places and needs to utilise old-fashioned short file names. CW have put up a detailed, complex tech note about it so I'm now ok, and they're going to fix this 'old fashioned' issue in the bowels of the code in future. Odd though as I didn't notice any problems related to this with previous versions of Sonar.

SONAR X2 first look