Do you use *Metro* ?

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I believe that we can expect Jeremy to discuss, once he's awake (nightowl) and had a few cups of coffee :D

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auricle wrote:
SaganTech wrote:No it only acts as a master. Why would you want it to slave?
To pipe music generated by Ultra Rhythm Explorer into other DAWs.
Okay that makes sense. I will have to re-think that. Metro as a device?

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goldenanalog wrote:I believe that we can expect Jeremy to discuss, once he's awake (nightowl) and had a few cups of coffee :D
Sorry goldenanalog, what was I suppose to discuss? I only had one cup of coffee so far. :wink:

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SaganTech wrote:
auricle wrote:
SaganTech wrote:No it only acts as a master. Why would you want it to slave?
To pipe music generated by Ultra Rhythm Explorer into other DAWs.
Okay that makes sense. I will have to re-think that. Metro as a device?
Yes! Metro as a device, like an additional piano roll. It would be really cool to drag and drop midi from the Metro VST/Rewire slave to the DAW. Personally I would much prefer a VST but either way, if it can augment midi in another host that would be wonderful. I use Studio One and Reaper and am trying to do this with Reaper but a host that is really targeted to work in this way would be ideal.
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braj wrote: Yes! Metro as a device, like an additional piano roll. It would be really cool to drag and drop midi from the Metro VST/Rewire slave to the DAW.
I don't know how much work that would involve but it is definitely within the realm of possibility.
braj wrote: Personally I would much prefer a VST but either way, if it can augment midi in another host that would be wonderful.
The problem is the way that RE works. It needs to know the entire selection of MIDI data in the track and the chord progressions of the entire selection to work effectively and this data is not easy to get via VST. There are probably ways to work around that, similar to how pitch correction does it so I have to think about it more.

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braj wrote:
SaganTech wrote:
auricle wrote:
SaganTech wrote:No it only acts as a master. Why would you want it to slave?
To pipe music generated by Ultra Rhythm Explorer into other DAWs.
Okay that makes sense. I will have to re-think that. Metro as a device?
Yes! Metro as a device, like an additional piano roll. It would be really cool to drag and drop midi from the Metro VST/Rewire slave to the DAW. Personally I would much prefer a VST but either way, if it can augment midi in another host that would be wonderful. I use Studio One and Reaper and am trying to do this with Reaper but a host that is really targeted to work in this way would be ideal.
I agree. To have Metro as a VST with midi clips that can be dragged/dropped to and from the host would make a lot of people happy - including me. The power and flexibility would be amazing.

I bought the full version, by the way. Just exploring it at the moment :-)

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auricle wrote:
braj wrote:
SaganTech wrote:
auricle wrote:
SaganTech wrote:No it only acts as a master. Why would you want it to slave?
To pipe music generated by Ultra Rhythm Explorer into other DAWs.
Okay that makes sense. I will have to re-think that. Metro as a device?
Yes! Metro as a device, like an additional piano roll. It would be really cool to drag and drop midi from the Metro VST/Rewire slave to the DAW. Personally I would much prefer a VST but either way, if it can augment midi in another host that would be wonderful.
I agree. To have Metro as a VST with midi clips that can be dragged/dropped to and from the host would make a lot of people happy - including me. The power and flexibility would be amazing.
Ergo: :D
Shabdahbriah wrote:Bought it (full version).
Will begin encouragement for standalone and/or Vst MIDI sequencer/Rhythm Explorer/Arp, soon. :wink:
I spaced on checking if it would "slave", although THAT was my intention for it's use. :dog:

I still would have bought it had I known it doesn't. I'll work around it.

fwiw: I don't use any of my (5!) 'DAWs' in a typical multi-track "production" manner, as I learned enough crash/lose everything lessons, so usually just for sequencing and routing purposes. I record everything live to a Tascam DR-1 or into another machine into Sound Forge, WaveLab, or Cool Edit Pro.

I *mix* all of my (recorded) instruments/effects as individual audio files, in Sound Forge. Kinda old-school "tape" methodology, which I am very comfortable with.

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I'm not a musician, but I've designed sounds that others use to make music. http://soundcloud.com/obsidiananvil

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Are there any abilities to edit audio like splitting it into chunks and then gluing them? I can't figure out how to do it in demo. For example, I recorded bass-guitar to audio track. There is a piece of audio displayed with red border in Graphic Editor. I can move it, change it's duration. How to split it into two pieces? Glue them again?

EDIT: Maybe I am trying wrong approach, but this way of audio editing looks native to me.

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auwerk wrote:Are there any abilities to edit audio like splitting it into chunks and then gluing them?
Yes. There are two audio editing modes toggled from the switches menu.
auwerk wrote: There is a piece of audio displayed with red border in Graphic Editor. I can move it, change it's duration. How to split it into two pieces? Glue them again?
With region editing mode off, Make the selection by simply clicking into the middle of the waveform region and dragging. Make a selection (with zero crossing on if you want to cut glitch free) and then cut the audio from the edit menu (or right click on the track titlebar for a contextual menu). Click where you want it to go and paste it. In this way you create new regions.

You can also just clear a region in the middle creating 3 regions. The one to the left and the one to the right and a new silent region in the middle.

You can also double click on a region to edit it in detail. You can also use the audio command 'combine regions' to create a new region of the current selection.

You can also zoom into the sample level and edit samples.

There is much more you can do. If that does not answer your question, please be more specific.

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SaganTech wrote:With region editing mode off, Make the selection by simply clicking into the middle of the waveform region and dragging. Make a selection (with zero crossing on if you want to cut glitch free) and then cut the audio from the edit menu (or right click on the track titlebar for a contextual menu). Click where you want it to go and paste it. In this way you create new regions.
Well, my bad :oops: This is simple and intuitive.
SaganTech wrote:You can also use the audio command 'combine regions' to create a new region of the current selection.
And that's gluing. Okay.
SaganTech wrote:There is much more you can do. If that does not answer your question, please be more specific.
Now it's clear, thank you. I will check those abilities (sample-level editing, etc.). Metro is deep :)

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While you're here, Jeremy.

Is it possible to change the font size of the column headers of the track view or even the headers in the UI in general? They are very hard to see on a high-res monitor (for me, anyway)

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Can selection in Graphic Editor be snapped to bars/notes?

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auricle wrote:While you're here, Jeremy.

Is it possible to change the font size of the column headers of the track view or even the headers in the UI in general? They are very hard to see on a high-res monitor (for me, anyway)
No. The header sizes cannot be changed. The data sizes can. Once you get used to the columns you may need to even reference the column headers.

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auwerk wrote:Can selection in Graphic Editor be snapped to bars/notes?
If you click on the black polygon containing the bar number in the graphic editor you can easily select bars. Alternatively you can select beats by clicking directly below or to the right of the black polygon. If you drag after you click you can select multiple bars or beats.

To select a single note, you can click between notes to deselect and then control-click (command-click for mac) on the note itself.

On a related note, turn on note editor quantize (from the switches menu) to drag notes quantized to the current step entry settings in the graphic editor toolbar.

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Thanks for your answers.
Bought full version, exploring it now :)

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