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stochasmatron · Post by **stochasmatron** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:00 pm

I'm wondering if I'll gain anything running Zebra at 96k, or if it's architected in such a way that there aren't any gains above a certain point.

dalor · Post by **dalor** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:09 pm

IMO any realtime synthesis benefits from higher sample rates.

3ee · Post by **3ee** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:21 pm

Yes, of course!
..one simple example would be to compare playing some chords under quad or eleventh wave mode (with a bit of detuning) 44.1k VS higher sample rates like 88.2 or 96k
..instant clarification for me!

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:02 am

Zebra in particular benefits from higher sample rate... I mainly use 88.2khz

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:14 am

Is there a way of doing this without running everything fast? Don't like the idea of losing half of my total polyphony

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:59 am

Sendy wrote:Is there a way of doing this without running everything fast? Don't like the idea of losing half of my total polyphony

Zebra 3 needs a quality setting... something like Diva... I would rather run at a lower sample rate and not have everything at 88.2khz

chilly7 · Post by **chilly7** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:47 am

Anybody can give me a correct answer? Is there any limit in sampling frequency for modeling programs like Zebra? Right now i am working at 96khz so is there any benefits running it even highter? Because there are many successful professional companies and all of them have contadiction iformation, some of them like Lavry says that there is 0 benefit running awrything after 96khz but others like MSB, Mergin,Antelope Audio promout 384khz sample rate,so who is right?

Thank u

chilly7 · Post by **chilly7** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:53 am

And also they say if u do SACD or DVD-A it is better to record and stay at 384khz all the time from start to the end until u burn SACD or DVD-A....
Anybody can give me totaly corect information and why is that?

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 3:00 am

I use 88.2 or 96 for Zebra... but it uses more cpu... My audio interface goes to 192... At 384khz I doubt I could play 1 note with half my patches without maxing the cpu... There are no cpu's that could handle it even if it were desirable.

Personally, I think 88/96 is just fine for Zebra... You noticeably gain going from 44 to 88/96... the difference between 88/96 and 176/192 is marginal... mainly the comb module sounds different IIRC

I hope Zebra 3 has quality settings like Diva...

chilly7 · Post by **chilly7** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 3:16 am

Cool, thank u!

Theorecticaly it is possible to record at 384khz if u have Mac Pro with 8,12,16 cores, but i just want to know if there any benefit to run at this super high sample rate? Because if there are any benefits then yes i will, but if there is no benefits i do not want to waist my money for no reason.

Any other opinions?!

Thank u
chilly

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:05 am

Now I'm wondering if it's worth rendering Zebra and maybe other synths at a higher samplerate. I really don't like the idea of composing in anything other than 44.1 / 32 bit.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:41 pm

chilly7 wrote:Lavry says that there is 0 benefit running awrything after 96khz

I think that's spot on for Lavry's market: Recording and mixing. But as soon there's digital signal processing involved such as a channel compressor, a console emulation or a synth, often times higher sample rates are better.

Of course, ideally those plugins would provide for their own oversampling. In that case there's no need ever to go beyond 48kHz for the base samplerate.

(I hope we get some switches done for Z3, which allow you to select the base samplerate as well as oversampling for individual modules.)

chilly7 · Post by **chilly7** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:25 pm

Urs wrote:
chilly7 wrote:Lavry says that there is 0 benefit running awrything after 96khz
I think that's spot on for Lavry's market: Recording and mixing. But as soon there's digital signal processing involved such as a channel compressor, a console emulation or a synth, often times higher sample rates are better.

Of course, ideally those plugins would provide for their own oversampling. In that case there's no need ever to go beyond 48kHz for the base samplerate.

(I hope we get some switches done for Z3, which allow you to select the base samplerate as well as oversampling for individual modules.)

Cool! So basicaly it means if i ran awrything at lets say 48khz but the plugin has an option for over sampling let say 2x so it means this particular plugin runs at 96khz and if it has 4x then 192khz and 8xthen 384khz, right?

Thank u

stochasmatron · Post by **stochasmatron** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:42 pm

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Ran across this ... Relevant Article is relevant;
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chilly7 · Post by **chilly7** » Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:03 am

stochasmatron wrote:Ran across this ... Relevant Article is relevant;
http://varietyofsound.wordpress.com/201 ... ing-rates/

The link does not work...

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Any benefit to running Zebra at 96k?