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pummel wrote:how about a time KS for the filters, so that they can scale with the osc.
Already there, I believe ?
pummel wrote:also, how about doubling the size of the wav tool -- no reason for it to be so small, its launched in exclusive mode anyway
You mean the additive editor, I guess. Apart from saving some bitmap memory, no, there's no real reason for it being so small... Skin designers are going to hate me if I change it :-)
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Skin designers are going to hate me
hey, with a bigger adder GUI they would have more real estate for their art work !! seriously, my eyes are not what they used to be, and with it being so small it is hard for me to move individual bars (so why am i trying to do that, you might ask?).

it would also be helpful to me if you could place "big tic" marks above or below the octaves, and little tics above / below the fifths -- like a ruler -- so that i do not have to count so high (we only have 20 fingers / toes).

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I would like to control filter parameters by separate LFO.

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Micha wrote:I would like to control filter parameters by separate LFO.
Well, you can always use the cutoff envelope for LFO-style control.
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By the way ( using envelopes as LFOs )

I thought of a possible mode : the end point of a loop could be used as a LFO rate control, either you move left or right and it compresses / expands the loop proportionally like an accordion !

What about that ? :D

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Could be also used pre and post loop : first point of the loop and last point of envelope respectively ! :idea:

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on user sliders --

we can currently clear the entire contents of a user slider; but this is a bit heavy handed in many cases, and not enough in others. there have been a number of times ive accidently touched the wrong slider, and then needed to start over. this is particularly annoying when its the fifth in a series of assignments.

so, how about a 'user unlearn' toggle; some means of selectively unassigning controls, while retaining the text field and all other controls.

my vote would be to impliment 'unlearn' such that you only need to identify the parameter you want 'uncontrolled', and rhino looks at all six sliders for control instances to remove (as you can have several user sliders hooked to the same parameter).

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Yes. Though as user sliders are getting more and more used, I believe there should be a window displaying, for a given slider, the list of current assignments. This would make it much easier to adjust / unlearn .

'Tick

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your user slider implimentation idea is much better!

i would like a 'true' mono mode (where the ASDR cycle is controlled by the first note held, and subsequent notes do not start a new attack until the first is released).

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I know it's been mentioned before... but since the sound potential of Rhino is already so good and always gettting better.. [thanks!] I thought I would mention as a reminder my pet peeve with it... that being not being able to save rhino in a chainer preset and have it reload with the bank and preset in place... and as far as I know this is also a problem in other hosts, right? [at least I don't know of it being anyother way yet]

This is really difficult for me since often some long times may elapse between various working sessions and I can easily not remember exactly what patch in what bank was being used... [neither my eyes NOR my memory are what they used to be... LOL ]

anyway more than enuff said... thanks for all the upcoming new stuff in 1.10

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Big Tick wrote:
foosnark wrote:Or at least... make it so when you right-click (thinking it had copy and paste, heh) and it brings up a list of patches to select, you can cancel so you don't lose the changes you've made :-o
Actually, if you bring up the preset list and click anywhere outside the menu, you'll close the menu without changing anything.
'Tick
I'm new to Rhino, and am enjoying so far (had to read through this whole thread before I could post).

I came to the same conclusion about the preset menu. I find that if I click anywhere outside the patch menu from the Osc tabs, the patch reverts to its original state and I lose unsaved changes.

Also would like to add a vote for being able to copy all oscillator settings from one Osc page and paste to another.

Cheers,
Steve

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I've had a chance to check out FM7 a bit and although I prefer Rhino overall there are a couple of things I really like about FM7 that would be great to have in some analogous form in Rhino.

First, the FM7 operator matrix makes the modulation routings much more obvious. The direct visual representation is a lot easier to comprehend than Rhino's plain table. Something more explicitly directional would be a big help.

Second, FM7 interactively updates a visualization of the resulting output waveform, which makes it a lot easier to understand how all the complex FM relationships work together. Something like this for Rhino would also be great.

I really like the sound of FM, but, like a lot of people, I find it very unintuitive to program. FM7 makes this significantly easier and I'd love to see Rhino facilitate this better too, because I think Rhino is much more powerful.
Last edited by kuniklo on Fri Apr 30, 2004 4:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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I agree with Kuniklo. A visual meter of the final waveform (ala FM7) would make programming much easier. Also, it would be great if the menu ite "Erase Envelope" appeared when an envelope is right-clicked. Even better would be a global "Set all Envelopes to Default".

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Hmm, yeah, a full waveform display would be nice - but it's going to be hard to find a place for it on the Rhino panel... And I'm afraid it might take some cpu just to redraw things if you use wild matrix automation (take for instance Daniel's Morpheus bank...).

You can reset an envelope by loading whatever default you want. But I'll try to add something along these lines anyway.

Cheers,
'Tick

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Big Tick wrote:Hmm, yeah, a full waveform display would be nice - but it's going to be hard to find a place for it on the Rhino panel... And I'm afraid it might take some cpu just to redraw things if you use wild matrix automation (take for instance Daniel's Morpheus bank...).

You can reset an envelope by loading whatever default you want. But I'll try to add something along these lines anyway.

Cheers,
'Tick
Excellent! Thanks for the reply.

What do you think about finding a way to make the routings among the operators a bit more explicit, like FM7? I realize that this isn't realistic for 2.0, but it would be great to have eventually.

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