The funny thing is it looks like there are more complaints about S1v2.5 in the "Studio One 2.5 Now Available" thread than there are in this thread which is consists of many users talking about how rock solid Cubase 7 is!donato wrote:BTW- I missed the 5+ page on KVR of S1 Crashes So Hard...
Whats your point? There are people also posting issues on gearslutz regarding S1v2.5, Logic 9, Ableton 9, etc...jsheem wrote: Just to add to this so there is a thread on here for crashes for cubase 7. Their are people posting on gearslutz with issues, and the official steinberg forum.
So its a popularity contest to you? Most professional studios actually use Protools. Does that fact make Protools an inherently better DAW than Logic, Cubase, Reaper, S1, Live, etc... ?jsheem wrote: If you were to do a survey for muscians/dj's/pop producers I bet they pick studio one/pr/logic/ableton or studio one over cubase for making music. Not mixing or engineering. Check out producer MDL (Justin Bieber "Boyfriend" and Maroon 5). USed cubase for a while, and now uses FL Studio all the time and cubase every now and then. Quote on FL Studio to Cubase "I can get ideas out quicker."
I know pro tools is standard. The music program I'm in has pro tools in all of the rooms with logic, and reason. My professors are enjoying studio one. Anyway, enjoy the beta testing on cubase 7. It's funny that their is a marcus on steinberg's staff that post on their forum. Nope not a popularity contest at all. Just saying the platinum engineers I've come across or have met never mention cubase. They don't particulary like the "workflow". You mad?Marcus797 wrote:Whats your point? There are people also posting issues on gearslutz regarding S1v2.5, Logic 9, Ableton 9, etc...jsheem wrote: Just to add to this so there is a thread on here for crashes for cubase 7. Their are people posting on gearslutz with issues, and the official steinberg forum.So its a popularity contest to you? Most professional studios actually use Protools. Does that fact make Protools an inherently better DAW than Logic, Cubase, Reaper, S1, Live, etc... ?jsheem wrote: If you were to do a survey for muscians/dj's/pop producers I bet they pick studio one/pr/logic/ableton or studio one over cubase for making music. Not mixing or engineering. Check out producer MDL (Justin Bieber "Boyfriend" and Maroon 5). USed cubase for a while, and now uses FL Studio all the time and cubase every now and then. Quote on FL Studio to Cubase "I can get ideas out quicker."
Vocalpoint Studios wrote:This coming from a (soon to be former) longtime Nuendo user - Studio One is - for me - easily the most intuitive and efficient DAW out there. I haven't encountered any issues thus far across the two main version releases.5Lives wrote:Funny to hear the folks recommend S1 v2.5 as an alternative...it's good (I have the Professional version), but it has plenty of complaints from users as well. And, nowhere near as mature as Cubase (or Logic / PT). 2.5 was a pretty disappointing release from them IMO - of the most popular feature requests in the forum from what I saw, only bus recording was added (and that took a whole year from when 2.0 was released).
I have said it before and will say it again - C7 may now be 7 versions deep and added a crap load of new stuff (a LOT of it is total catchup with other players - including Presonus) - but if none of it works (and it's starting to look that way so far) who cares how mature it is or what it's packing?
I maintain that my two key requirements (crisp workflow and stability) far outweigh maturity, overblown bloated interfaces and endless issues.
Getting the work done is my the primary directive. Not how old it is or how cool it looks.
Cheers!
VP
you do realize how stupid you look, right?Marcus797 wrote:The funny thing is it looks like there are more complaints about S1v2.5 in the "Studio One 2.5 Now Available" thread than there are in this thread which is consists of many users talking about how rock solid Cubase 7 is!donato wrote:BTW- I missed the 5+ page on KVR of S1 Crashes So Hard...
donato wrote:you do realize how stupid you look, right?Marcus797 wrote:The funny thing is it looks like there are more complaints about S1v2.5 in the "Studio One 2.5 Now Available" thread than there are in this thread which is consists of many users talking about how rock solid Cubase 7 is!donato wrote:BTW- I missed the 5+ page on KVR of S1 Crashes So Hard...
Ok no more, don't wanna get banned!
You calling me stupid?! Now thats hilarious!donato wrote:you do realize how stupid you look, right?Marcus797 wrote:The funny thing is it looks like there are more complaints about S1v2.5 in the "Studio One 2.5 Now Available" thread than there are in this thread which is consists of many users talking about how rock solid Cubase 7 is!donato wrote:BTW- I missed the 5+ page on KVR of S1 Crashes So Hard...
Just a few of the features Cubase 6 has that Studio One doesn't:
- MIDI is absolutely rudimentary.
- No drum editor.
- No score editor.
- S1 doesn't handle OMF files.
- No Split Arrange / Toggle Track List
- No Non-Linear Sequencing (Arranger Track).
- No S-type (logarithmic, exponential) curve to fade-in and fade-out.
- S1's media management is an absolute pathetic joke compared to the power of Mediabay.
- No split an imported stereo track into 2 mono tracks.
- No input gain in the mixer.
- No phase button in the mixer.
- No VST Expressions.
- No Parts and no Part-Editor.
- No dual panning in the mixer.
- No record output of channels.
- No Project Logical Editor.
- No channel button all Insert FX on/off.
- No channel buttons FX and sends on/off.
- No Control Room.
- No Note Expression.
- No In Place Editor.
- No Midi Plugins.
- No global on/off for automation.
- No Multiple output freezing (VSTi Rack)
- No Global Transpose (Audio & Midi).
- No "Volume Envelope Events".
- No Track Controls.
- No Mixer Reset Button.
- No "set timecode at now option.
- No Quick Controls, e.g. in Inspector.
- No export/bounce virtual instrument tracks in mono.
- Studio One is absolutely lacking in Film Scoring.
- It doesn't have the same level of hardware support, the routing is very limited.
- The included plug ins are not the greatest. Stock plugins are a joke (e.g. one weak Synth and Sample Player with very old soundfont libraries)
- Horrible support for control surfaces except for the (Surprise!) FaderPort. MCU support sucks, really bad.
- The freeze options is a bet messy and I don't think it unloads the plug ins from memory.
- Doesn't have descent panning (only one slider). This can be fixed with the pan plugin. But using a plugin to pan something.?
- Loop browser doesn't work properly. Loops don't sync correctly to tempo, and when i open my Virus TI it gets even worse, nothing syncs.
- You can't route an FX channel to another FX channel.
- Bouncing audio event causes a lot of mistakes.
- To bridge 32bit plugins you have to use a third party program. With J-Bridge it crashes to much.
- CPU usage isn't optimized IMO.
- If stability is an issue for you, Studio One is definitely not the DAW for you. There are A LOT of bugs in Studio One, sometimes from version to the next. 2.0.5 for example introduced crazy CPU spikes in the Mac version, though those seem to have been resolved in 2.0.6. Presonus' QA needs work imo. They introduced a new feature in 2.0.5 that doesn't even work in 64-bit mode (macro toolbar). In 2012 that is sacrilege.
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