Subwoofer (Sub7 or SubF?)
- KVRAF
- 2686 posts since 5 Feb, 2004 from Nevada City, California
Hey all,
I have had my A7X monitors for most of a year and I really love them. My friend who first recommended them still insists that I would be happier with an ADAM subwoofer. Right now I have an old Radio Shack hi-fi woofer. $600 seems quite steep, so I am weighing options. I see that there are B-Stock Sub7's for $450 right now, but I sure don't want a defective unit with no returns. Then, there is the SubF coming really soon (Jan 8th) for just $400. The difference so far, I see no HP 85Hz filter and no remote with easy crossover/volume control.
Anyone want to clue me in on how the Sub7 is superior? I have never had my speakers routed through a proper sub with satellite outputs. It seems like a really good option.
Thanks and happy holidays!
I have had my A7X monitors for most of a year and I really love them. My friend who first recommended them still insists that I would be happier with an ADAM subwoofer. Right now I have an old Radio Shack hi-fi woofer. $600 seems quite steep, so I am weighing options. I see that there are B-Stock Sub7's for $450 right now, but I sure don't want a defective unit with no returns. Then, there is the SubF coming really soon (Jan 8th) for just $400. The difference so far, I see no HP 85Hz filter and no remote with easy crossover/volume control.
Anyone want to clue me in on how the Sub7 is superior? I have never had my speakers routed through a proper sub with satellite outputs. It seems like a really good option.
Thanks and happy holidays!
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- KVRAF
- 1959 posts since 4 Nov, 2004 from Manchester
The HP filter ensures the sub is matched properly with speakers, removing some frequency bleed and tightening up the sound overall and also the cone is a better material.
I'd acturly go for the B-stock item but then I'd also expect the B-stock item to have at least a basic year warranty as well.
I'd acturly go for the B-stock item but then I'd also expect the B-stock item to have at least a basic year warranty as well.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2686 posts since 5 Feb, 2004 from Nevada City, California
Ok. After some further reading i like the Sub7 over the SubF. Now, should i consider the Sub8? Some people seems to swear by them, the 7 being the smallest in the line. The reason I say now is that it appears zzounds.com will take 4 payments on the 7 or the 8 making the affordability better for me. Only $40 a month spent on a permanent upgrade. $600 Sub7 vs $750 for the Sub8 in reality.
I have found now that my old SW-10P 120W 10" cone Radio Shack provides me with invaluable low ranges, but it is highly prone to rattling. Possibly internal damage. It was even a floor model when I bought it some 10 years ago.
Anyone have experience with this zzounds "Play as You Pay" at all? I have avoided such things in the past. Once I applied for a service and it rejected my non-existent credit.
Anyone with experience with Sub7 vs Sub8? I also do not want to wake up the neighbors or annoy people. I just thought - it is said there is a 'tighter response' or something from the Sub8?
Thanks for the support all!
I have found now that my old SW-10P 120W 10" cone Radio Shack provides me with invaluable low ranges, but it is highly prone to rattling. Possibly internal damage. It was even a floor model when I bought it some 10 years ago.
Anyone have experience with this zzounds "Play as You Pay" at all? I have avoided such things in the past. Once I applied for a service and it rejected my non-existent credit.
Anyone with experience with Sub7 vs Sub8? I also do not want to wake up the neighbors or annoy people. I just thought - it is said there is a 'tighter response' or something from the Sub8?
Thanks for the support all!
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2686 posts since 5 Feb, 2004 from Nevada City, California
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2686 posts since 5 Feb, 2004 from Nevada City, California
just to report back - i have the Sub7 and it is great. the bypass footswitch doesn't work the way i expected, but i am sure that the Sub8 would have been excessive anyway. the 7 provides plenty of heavy bass for my house which is not sound-proofed. i love the remote control for keeping things within reason at different times of day/night.
i feel like i am hearing my old mixes for the first time with proper low end. i see a lot of mistakes, so i know i am on the right track. lol. many peoples' listening systems go this low where monitors alone weren't doing it. it is interesting also to see how leaving the heavy bass on a different cone and letting the A7X work on 85hz and above helps them be even more precise.
while i am typing this old track of mine started rattling things on the floor where i never meant to do it - this is from like 2007 with cheap monitos, no sub, and no room treatment.
thanks all for helping me get to a better sonic state! it is wonderful for just listening to music too.
i feel like i am hearing my old mixes for the first time with proper low end. i see a lot of mistakes, so i know i am on the right track. lol. many peoples' listening systems go this low where monitors alone weren't doing it. it is interesting also to see how leaving the heavy bass on a different cone and letting the A7X work on 85hz and above helps them be even more precise.
while i am typing this old track of mine started rattling things on the floor where i never meant to do it - this is from like 2007 with cheap monitos, no sub, and no room treatment.
thanks all for helping me get to a better sonic state! it is wonderful for just listening to music too.
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- KVRAF
- 1959 posts since 4 Nov, 2004 from Manchester
For me that's one of the biggest selling points of having a 2.1 setup! It's really quite suprising how much difference it makes but then I suppose the transients are a lot tighter if the cone doesn't have to travel anywhere near as far.ford442 wrote:it is interesting also to see how leaving the heavy bass on a different cone and letting the A7X work on 85hz and above helps them be even more precise.
You mentioned a lack of sound proofing, it's probably worth doing it properly and adding some bass traps if you haven't already and a proper recoil platform for the sub and speakers will tighten it up further along with some reflection point absorption.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2686 posts since 5 Feb, 2004 from Nevada City, California
i do have traps now - i was talking about this track from several years ago being bad because of that lack.
i have had the sub for about 10 days and it keeps on impressing me with its usefulness. i might hear it 'breaking in' a little too. sometime i will work on its placement more, but for now i am glad that it worked out and i can recommend the setup to other people for sure.
i have had the sub for about 10 days and it keeps on impressing me with its usefulness. i might hear it 'breaking in' a little too. sometime i will work on its placement more, but for now i am glad that it worked out and i can recommend the setup to other people for sure.