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djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:12 am

I experienced a problem with Diva were when I activated multi-threading, it didn't seam to actually be activated because it was using just as much CPU on Logic's CPU meter. Multi-threading seems to work great on my current stable release.

Ch00rD · Post by **Ch00rD** » Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:57 am

Changelog1316.txt wrote:All - Using a Wacom tablet gave problems with random erroneously right clicks, fixed.

Awesome, this one in particular is highly appreciated here!

EvilDragon wrote:This might be as well be Reaper OSX issue - it does have some redrawing issues.

It most definitely does...

The Telenator · Post by **The Telenator** » Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:42 am

Thanks so much, Urs, for adding some detail to what's been happening lately. I sort of expected you had gone on holiday already! Clearly, things always tend to sound worse on beta threads than they are in reality. You have a great meal at a restaurant you may tell one or two close friends; however, if the meal is trouble, you are more likely to broadcast it far and wide. Also, I realise what we're dealing with are some rather complex chunks of software, these VSTi's.

EvilDragon mentioned being all happily up-to-date, and usually I am, but I learned my lesson about not being too hasty to update when I once jumped on the release of an hours-old update of a certain DAW, only to discover that several very serious issues -- superbugs -- had escaped detection, forcing many of us to roll back immediately. I know plenty of folks who won't purchase the first-year edition of a new car model but will rather wait for year 2 when all problems supposedly have been worked out and fixed.

Ever since I finally left my former minimalist recording style and took on a full complement of synths and a good number of effects, it has become more and more common to open my mail on certain days to discover two, three, even a half dozen items of my favourite plugins have been updated in brand new releases. At some point during that week, I then have to set aside a large block of time to install all of this good stuff. Let's not forget that once the PC is all happy and DAWs running smoothly with the new items installed and tested, we have another hour or two of making backups on flash drives and so on.

Therefore, I try to be a little more hesitant and careful with this update business. I've learned my lesson. Overarching everything I've said, though, is the simple fact that every bit of the u-he software I have is currently running so exceptionally fine and glitch-free that I live in some form of softsynth heaven these days. Every skin and preset folder has been modded on my end. I can't simply over-install anything when it involves u-he. I must pull folders aside and return them afterward. So, naturally I'm cautious!

Well, I've got the required 1331 installers and will sit on them a while. It's tempting to jump right on it, though!

Meanwhile, if anyone else would kindly like to look above and make specific answers to any of the questions I posted (your opinions included, of course), I would much appreciate it. Odd as it may sound, of all my time in the world of DAWs and digital, I've only discovered u-he and the nearly unbelievable high quality of this software in the last nine months. I'm old enough to know genius when I see it, and these are no shallow synths and effects, so there is certainly more I want to learn about them. I'm interested in reading more about this current beta status. How about a bit more regarding u-he synths and VST 3?

I love this act of going through all the products and bringing everything completely up to date. Podolski is wonderful.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:01 am

Regarding legato playing, I still seem to be unable to do a legato trill where I hold one key, and then tap another key really fast, with the sustain pedal pressed - it simply doesn't retrigger back to the previously held note.

This is definitely not how I'd like it to be. One should be able to retrigger a trill in legato mode, WHILE the sustain pedal is pressed. This is how all synths that I've worked with function (mind you - I'm talking mostly about workstations from Korg, Kurzweil, Yammie, but my AN1X functions in exactly the same way, as is my Kawai K5000R).

So, would it be possible to fix this across all u-he plugins? This is extremely important for being able to play long solo lead legato lines. Pretty please?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:36 am

EvilDragon wrote:Regarding legato playing, I still seem to be unable to do a legato trill where I hold one key, and then tap another key really fast, with the sustain pedal pressed - it simply doesn't retrigger back to the previously held note.

This is definitely not how I'd like it to be. One should be able to retrigger a trill in legato mode, WHILE the sustain pedal is pressed. This is how all synths that I've worked with function (mind you - I'm talking mostly about workstations from Korg, Kurzweil, Yammie, but my AN1X functions in exactly the same way, as is my Kawai K5000R).

So, would it be possible to fix this across all u-he plugins? This is extremely important for being able to play long solo lead legato lines. Pretty please?

I've put it on the ever growing list of feature requests.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:59 am

The Telenator wrote:Clearly, things always tend to sound worse on beta threads than they are in reality.

No worries. We've always discussed bugs and niggles openly. This may at first sight sound like it may scare people off. But what it actually means is, we have a culture of listening to people and dealing with things.

Beta testing is for the brave - it's definately not for people in the middle of a production

Regarding VST3, it's just another format. We haven't done anything yet in it that creates an immediate advantage over VST2 versions, apart maybe from more economic use of resources. However, we might support Note Expressions at some point and we believe that it might be more future proof in general.

koalaboy · Post by **koalaboy** » Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:28 pm

Just a note to say everything installed fine and dandy on my x64 Windows 7 here. I left the VST3 versions uninstalled as they just clutter up my C: drive

The only complication was a new serial as the one I'd been using was apparently not new enough for ZebraHZ

I am sure it's been raised before, and isn't new to this release, but the Bazille cables overlay the presets window instead of being underneath.

Have a great Christmas, and thanks for constantly great updates.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:18 pm

Hehehe, Bazille cables have overlaid the preset browser for a year... need to do a dedicated page like in ACE

The Telenator · Post by **The Telenator** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:03 am

Urs wrote:

"[W]e have a culture of listening to people and dealing with things."

That's commendable. I can think of a few of the larger audio software makers that could benefit from this attitude.

Happy Holidays, everyone. And have a safe and enjoyable New Year's!

Tom Drinkwater · Post by **Tom Drinkwater** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:20 am

I have an intermittent crash when changing .tun microtuning files in diva, some times it crashes reaper entirely. seems to be worse if i try to change .tun files while playing notes, but once or twice i think it has done it when I haven't been playing. It also seems to be worse if I click a few times quickly in the list of tunings, some sort of mouse click events pileup?

JustusHall · Post by **JustusHall** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:41 am

Hello Urs&Team,

Appreciate all the work you guys put in making these updates, cheers!
Installed the Diva beta update. Everything seems to be working oke i think, except that she is acting more like a Diva then she was before

Opened the same project and tested rev 903 vs 1331 and the beta is quite a bit more cpu hungry.
I don't know if i'm the only but thought i would share.

Thanks again for making 64bit happen on mac and have a good holiday!!!!

Cheers Justus!!

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:55 am

Urs wrote:
Echoes in the Attic wrote:Just as an FYI, there is still the problem with Diva where it loads in Great quality in a project where it was saved as fast quality. For some reason this only happens with the first instance if you load a saved host preset. For example, save an Ableton instrument rack with Diva in fast mode. Then load it in a new project. It will load in Great mode. Delete it and reload it without changing the mode. It now loads in fast mode as it was saved. Not a big deal but thought I'd report it again.
Ableton's Instrument Rack in Live "optimises" our chance away to save things with project. We can't distinguish whether something is saved with a Rack or a project. Things like multicore settings or accuracy might not recall reliably there (but we might be able to get around this somehow with some features we've planned sometime in the future)

Wouldn't you want Diva to be recalled in a project at the quality setting you left it at in that particular project? So the behavior of an instrument rack and an instance in a project should be no different. Indeed racks are essentially seen as a saved instance in a project.

Strange that it loads up as recalled after the first time loading it though. Seems like there's something strange going on.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:49 am

Echoes in the Attic wrote:
Wouldn't you want Diva to be recalled in a project at the quality setting you left it at in that particular project? So the behavior of an instrument rack and an instance in a project should be no different. Indeed racks are essentially seen as a saved instance in a project.

Strange that it loads up as recalled after the first time loading it though. Seems like there's something strange going on.

I'm not quite sure what it was. If only the first one recalls instance settings then the following ones reuse that instance. Or maybe they randomly don't.

But the it properly recalls with project, doesn't it?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:52 am

JustusHall wrote:Hello Urs&Team,

Appreciate all the work you guys put in making these updates, cheers!
Installed the Diva beta update. Everything seems to be working oke i think, except that she is acting more like a Diva then she was before

Opened the same project and tested rev 903 vs 1331 and the beta is quite a bit more cpu hungry.
I don't know if i'm the only but thought i would share.

Thanks again for making 64bit happen on mac and have a good holiday!!!!

Cheers Justus!!

Hehe, any chance you can send us that project?

The first beta (1316 I think) was more cpu hungry by accident. 1331 has outperformed 903 on our machines by a small margin, i.e. new compilers did a slightly better job.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:59 am

Tom Drinkwater wrote:I have an intermittent crash when changing .tun microtuning files in diva, some times it crashes reaper entirely. seems to be worse if i try to change .tun files while playing notes, but once or twice i think it has done it when I haven't been playing. It also seems to be worse if I click a few times quickly in the list of tunings, some sort of mouse click events pileup?

Are you on Mac or PC?

If you're on Mac, we'd love to see the crash.log that usually comes with a crash.

Thing is, we've swapped the .tun code for something that supposedly works better (originally only certain tun files with "exact" section were supported) and file handling should have become all fail proof. Thus its a section that needs testing anyway, but we didn't expect any problems...

Also, is it a certain tun file maybe? Or do crahes occurr randomly on different ones?

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